EVE General Discussion

It's [TEST]. They made me do it! I had to upvote, sorry fam

Truth be told, I *did* upvote it because I agree. Don't look at who posts it, look at what is written there.


Owww I'm sorry for derailing: THIS is important stuff:

For years Eve bucked the trend of MMO decline, you for example like small fleet combat as do I, Eve has some great mechanics there, really good stuff and pretty sophisticated at the tactical level. That is what many people do not want to lose. So yes we are aware of the downward trend in PC MMO's, yes if we don't enjoy it then get the hell out, but what gets many people back is the sophistication of certain core parts of the game which they do not find in other games.

The issue is game balance which favours certain players and game styles, I suggested some balancing there, CCP made some good moves on their anti-blob efforts but they need to look at other imbalances such as the lack of consequences for ganking and issues on some game mechanics that make it easier for them which I have detailed in this thread.

They made some good moves in making it less of a chore for example baby sitting a Citadel and sov basing it on when you are likely to be active, putting the onus of alarm clocking on the attacker.

I cam back for the Citadels and was really annoyed to find that the Mediums had the market taken out of them, I expected that came from 0.0 players blocking that one. Which is another problem in terms of who CCP listens to.

As for the question

Perhaps the person posing that question could start the ball rolling, especially as in this thread I and a number of others made valid suggestions on certain changes that would improve things which they ignored in making that comment.

Unless that comment is talking about doing stuff in game? That is why making such comments people need to put forth their own views, making one liner comments like that is easy.

Don't you ever get the message, I think you are a complete waste of space, your opinions are crap and matter not to me, I did not even read a single word of what you just wasted your time writing, I am sure its just one big yawn of stuff you regurgitate from your rear end.

I believe CCP views them as an anti-blob measure. I'll grant you though they are not an effective one. They are still very early in this process - keep an eye on upcoming updates to see how well they do moving forward.

Are you sure ? Doesn't look like it . Please ignore !

In another fantastical proposition, had I been in the same room as those who devised Eve Online, or as I like to say "were it up to me"™ the way tracking systems worked would have been vastly different.

That is, the more targeting systems locking up a target of a given size, the less reliable the ability to lock it becomes and at a certain point a limit is reached on how many targeting systems can lock it.

So imagine how Eve Online would have been if for example a frigate could be locked by 2 or 3 other frigates, or a couple of cruiser/battlecruisers, or one battleship?

Or conversely, a cruiser can be locked up by 5 or 6 frigates, a couple of other cruisers, or a couple of battleships? Working up the chain, a battleship might be locked by 7 or 8 frigates, 3-4 cruisers, or 2-3 other battleships.

Etc. etc.

That would have been the end of F1 fleet monkey blobbing.

Imagine that. Imagine having to split fleets into operating on the wing and squad level. Imagine instead of one FC calling a primary, the FC had to command and rely on wing commanders, and the wing commanders had to rely on squad leaders.
Fleets would have been way more interesting and headshotting the FC would not have been a thing.

Elsewhere, blobbing and gate-raep/instaPWN gate camping would not have been "the thing". Imagine that too.

Somebody at some point might have had that vision for, apparently, that's how the fleet is structured.


I'm sure my good friend Dirty Forum Alt will now accuse me of wanting to force brainless F1 fleet monkeys and gate campers out of the game.

You just described what would happen if every ship in the game got a target spectrum breaker.
Under that mechanic, if:
I wanted to prevent anyone from targeting my fleet in a reasonable amount of time, I'd have everyone i fleet yellowbox each other.
I wanted to prevent enemy logi from landing, I'd blob anyway. If my whole fleet is locked on to something, enemy logi won't be able to do anything unless it already has your target locked.

I see you are your usual self.

BTW I have been writing code since 1984 and once converted a C++ 3D engine to Java before the days of Java3D and JOGL - late 90s actually.

But go ahead and be yourself. It's perfect for this thread.

I'm sorry, didn't see the part where you made any money designing a game that hundreds of thousands of people would play. When we get to talk about coding rather than game design I'm sure we'll keep you in mind...

but hey, if it makes you feel better to blame your unworkable ill thought out idea on my posting words on a forum, have at it, we all know how hard self criticism (that would have prevented you from posting the bad idea in the 1st place) can be on tender egos.