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More SC controversy with a mention of EO

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Jacques d'Orleans
#41 - 2016-08-10 04:33:46 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


114 million $? They've raised 114 million $?Shocked

Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck.


As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $.
Jacques d'Orleans
#42 - 2016-08-10 04:48:18 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I heard SC will resurrect Jesus and make baby kittens cry.

P

Also, posting in a DEREK SMART THREAD before the lock.

Bear



Yeah, good ole Derek Smart, this name still makes me cringe in excruciating levels, as i was one of those idiots who bought his Battlecruiser 3000AD back then.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#43 - 2016-08-20 18:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#44 - 2016-08-20 21:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate

Too bad it's janky as hell when you play it and they still only have ONE partially finished system out of 100.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#45 - 2016-08-21 14:58:05 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


114 million $? They've raised 114 million $?Shocked

Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck.


As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $.

$118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#46 - 2016-08-21 21:51:52 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


114 million $? They've raised 114 million $?Shocked

Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck.


As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $.

$118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012.

I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#47 - 2016-08-21 23:01:26 UTC
Heinrich Harkkon
Trumpstaffel
#48 - 2016-09-11 02:18:07 UTC
Haha, any time someone gets frustrated with EVE/CCP, take a few minutes to read up on the history of SC. It really does put things into perspective and gives you a newfound sense of gratitude.

"I had a dream that CCP Guard's naked photos leaked on the internet.

I discussed it and people were surprised how small it is, I mean his sausg.

Sorry for imagining you with little wee wee."

- Nana Skalski, 2016.

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#49 - 2016-09-12 13:14:41 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


114 million $? They've raised 114 million $?Shocked

Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck.


As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $.

$118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012.


+1. People have a hard time generating that kind of money for actual real life causes, but a video game does so easily.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#50 - 2016-09-12 13:31:43 UTC
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#51 - 2016-09-12 13:50:31 UTC
Maybe egoism and need for entertainment is somewhat stronger than altruism and need for a help to remote people, not related to you. And that it is prevalent in general population. Also its merketing of a strongly visual medium, you can show progress, you can show people things that they want. All of this versus an empathic feeling of help towards a remote group of people, coupled with a fad of turning a bucket of icy water on someone. I dont know how science could treat something like that. These SC backers fund a project with the prospect of actually getting something in return. With charity there is this issue, that you can feel better for a moment, and then, well, after a while its gone, the money is gone, people you helped are gone. But software you could use for yourself, and have a fun time. It means you pay for entertainment.

Always where someone posts before me, before I press POST myself, I get the "We were Ganked" message from forum...
Absolute Intoleranto
Doomheim
#52 - 2016-09-13 17:06:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Absolute Intoleranto
Khergit Deserters wrote:
$118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012.


Something that made me think too.

There are lot of calls for donations for good and important reasons. Yet the amount of money they get is pathetic.
Now one guy wants to create a game and people are throwing money at him like crazy.

I do not blame Roberts for that, but the people who throw the money at him and even fell proud about that.
That makes me sick and I do not want to play with this kind of people.

Commissar Kate wrote:

I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure.


Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour.
Giaus Felix
Doomheim
#53 - 2016-09-13 17:33:48 UTC
Absolute Intoleranto wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
$118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012.


Something that made me think too.

There are lot of calls for donations for good and important reasons. Yet the amount of money they get is pathetic.
Now one guy wants to create a game and people are throwing money at him like crazy.

I do not blame Roberts for that, but the people who throw the money at him and even fell proud about that.
That makes me sick and do not want to play with this kind of people.

Commissar Kate wrote:

I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure.


Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour.
Calling it a game is pretty naive TBH, all most people have seen is a slick marketing campaign and a really shoddy demo.

I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#54 - 2016-09-13 17:51:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Its still alpha. Incomplete alpha. Whatever are your feelings about it.

Years before, I have seen games in alpha stage, nonplayable, but you could get them from some shady sources. Usually russians.
I remember one of Hitman games where barely few things worked consistently good. Such are alphas.

And its really early for such a game to be called even partially finished.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#55 - 2016-09-13 17:51:50 UTC
Absolute Intoleranto wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:

I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure.


Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour.
Well then what is it? I gave them $60 during the initial kickstarter 4 years ago and all I got so far is a buggy bare bones tech demo that has a long way to go before I'd call it a game.

I'm sure CR ment well and really thought he could pull it off but so far I'm not impressed with the way the project has been managed. Not to mention the rabid fanbase that demonizes anyone for bringing up any criticism of the game.
Absolute Intoleranto
Doomheim
#56 - 2016-09-15 07:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Absolute Intoleranto
Giaus Felix wrote:
Calling it a game is pretty naive TBH, all most people have seen is a slick marketing campaign and a really shoddy demo.


Than Dust 514 probably would be the crime of the year. <---- Kidding...

SC is not out yet. Not so long ago they released a presentation from their alpha 3.0.

Nana Skalski wrote:
Its still alpha. Incomplete alpha. Whatever are your feelings about it.

Years before, I have seen games in alpha stage, nonplayable, but you could get them from some shady sources. Usually russians.
I remember one of Hitman games where barely few things worked consistently good. Such are alphas.

And its really early for such a game to be called even partially finished.


You are acting as someone did call it finished. Nobody did that and it is not finished. Thats why it is not out yet.

Commissar Kate wrote:
Well then what is it?


Work in progress.

Commissar Kate wrote:
I gave them $60 during the initial kickstarter 4 years ago and all I got so far is a buggy bare bones tech demo that has a long way to go before I'd call it a game.


See thats the problem with kickstarter. There is no guarantee that you will receive the product.
Since they are still working on the game you can not call this a scam. Even if he fails to deliver.

The only project I have backed was that book about EVE Online by Andrew Groen and it is great!

Commissar Kate wrote:
I'm sure CR ment well and really thought he could pull it off but so far I'm not impressed with the way the project has been managed. Not to mention the rabid fanbase that demonizes anyone for bringing up any criticism of the game.


Roberts once failed with a similar project due to mismanagement (because of similar reasons). Do not forget that a big chunk of their money is already invested in the game. Its not that they are sitting on 100 million all along. Chances are good that he will fail again or not.
Why do not we take a step back and let time pass and the situation progress?
Why is it so important to discredit this guy and the game? Are you that afraid of SC hurting EVE?

They have lots of butthurt EVE haters on their forums, please do not be that childish and respond the same way.

Let them be childish, let them be jealous of EVE Online, let them be full of hate and do not act like them!

Enjoy your life!
And try to enjoy EVE.Cool
Thats why we are here, right? Right.Attention
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#57 - 2016-09-15 08:00:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Quote:
You are acting as someone did call it finished.

I am only cooling the heads.
With current speed, their development will take few years more.
But I have said that same thing few years ago. Pirate

So we dont really know...
Until the money on account will be gone, for sure.

Then the game will be finished for sure. Whatever the meaning is.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#58 - 2016-09-16 14:31:34 UTC
Kickstarter's terms of service were changed recently, to explicitly avoid the kind of thing that CIG and most of these Kickstarters have been doing, which is to get risk- and accountability-free investment money.

Cry havoc, and let slip the d̶o̶g̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶ lawyers!

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#59 - 2016-09-17 07:20:02 UTC
Holy **** that article

I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#60 - 2016-09-17 12:57:21 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Holy **** that article

I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up

Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing.