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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#21 - 2016-08-09 18:05:26 UTC
Can't we have market seeded on private citadels?
I assume currently orders on citadels are only visible for those who have access.
Or are there any caveats?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#22 - 2016-08-09 19:28:07 UTC
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Can't we have market seeded on private citadels?
I assume currently orders on citadels are only visible for those who have access.
Or are there any caveats?


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The market is not seeded. Instead, all characters can create items using a slash command: /giveitem [type] [quantity], where type is either the type ID or type name (make sure you use quotes if it's the name). You can create stacks of up to 50,000 items at once. (Yes, I am planning to allow you to spawn multiple items at once in the future, but that's not on the server right now)


No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.

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Nika NOisER
Y U SO BAD GIT GUD
VYDRA RELOLDED
#23 - 2016-08-09 19:48:16 UTC
pls fix my account for thunderdome
Incorrect username or password.
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2016-08-09 20:26:27 UTC
A new command, /giveallskills has been added. Using it will inject your character with all skills at level 0. Alternatively, you can use /giveallskills super to give your character all skills at level 5.

Additionally, the /giveitem command will now accept a comma separated list of types (either names or IDs, or a mix) surrounded by quotes to spawn multiple types at once. e.g. /giveitem "Raven, Megathron, Tempest, Apocalypse" 200

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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2016-08-09 21:23:05 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:

No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.


Clearly you don't understand the absolute pain in the ass that spawning multiple thousand different item types, many of them with horribly obscure names, to fit a complete set of teams is. The multifit tool is amazing for fitting sets of tournament setups and the easiest way to use it by far is to just buy the stuff off the market.

Of course the teams could individually code some sort of program to automatically give you the item ID's and quantities for a particular setup in a list to paste it into the spawn command but it really just seems far more logical to allow the captains to use the seed command.
Wood Vulcan
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2016-08-09 22:34:07 UTC
Bouncing off of what Destoya has said, spawning these thousands of items is very time consuming.


I suppose the work is mostly front loaded. Once a comp is fully spawned and fitted it has the added bonus not being tracked via the market. But I will admit this is frustratingly long work.
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2016-08-09 23:43:05 UTC
Destoya wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:

No need to seed, when you can just spawn what you need.


Clearly you don't understand the absolute pain in the ass that spawning multiple thousand different item types, many of them with horribly obscure names, to fit a complete set of teams is. The multifit tool is amazing for fitting sets of tournament setups and the easiest way to use it by far is to just buy the stuff off the market.

Of course the teams could individually code some sort of program to automatically give you the item ID's and quantities for a particular setup in a list to paste it into the spawn command but it really just seems far more logical to allow the captains to use the seed command.


[img]http://i.imgur.com/DJ6nxZb.png[/img]

I'm blaming you for my lack of sleep. Hopefully I'll be able to clean up any of the code horrors on the back-end and get this properly tested over the next few days before deploying it to Thunderdome. (Dislaimer: Feature may be shot down before reaching deployment status or be subject to lengthy delays. Have hopes at your own risk)

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Robbbin Hood
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-08-10 06:53:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Robbbin Hood
Seeing as how it's a bit of a nightmare to generate multiple items manually, I built a tool via Google sheets to make life a little easier.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/135IgbhWCw2OIJ6PeAliHp4Ruzruu0xpQVLICos8EpLs/edit?usp=sharing

Basically, you can copy-paste most fits and it will automatically generate your code to copy-paste into Thunderdome.
Same principle via just generating code for multiple items.

**If you are using this, just make a copy for yourself to use**
Wanux
GreenSwarm
#29 - 2016-08-10 07:39:47 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:

I'm blaming you for my lack of sleep. Hopefully I'll be able to clean up any of the code horrors on the back-end and get this properly tested over the next few days before deploying it to Thunderdome. (Dislaimer: Feature may be shot down before reaching deployment status or be subject to lengthy delays. Have hopes at your own risk)


This looks awesome, lets hope QA doesn't shoot you down Smile
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2016-08-10 15:48:48 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Logibro
Thunderdome will have additional downtime today (2016-08-10) at some time around or before 18:00UTC for the move from VMs to Hardware. No estimate on how long this will take.

Move complete! Thunderdome is now on hardware.

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Gundir Terona
Chalupa Batman Inc.
Brack Regen
#31 - 2016-08-11 00:24:01 UTC
Any chance we could get the tournament practice unit to create the micro jump units and warpin bookmarks in all the right places around where you deploy the unit? I may be asking for a lot but man that'd be pretty awesome and time saving. It'd be nice to make a legit tournament cube with the items and bookmarks. It would save time as we currently have to make them manually.
Tridgit
Iron.Guard
Fraternity.
#32 - 2016-08-11 00:36:37 UTC
You're awesome Logibro

When is the next round of names/accounts being added?
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#33 - 2016-08-11 11:50:52 UTC
Next round will be tomorrow (Friday). Make sure the mails are in before the afternoon, as that's when we'll be pulling more accounts.

Also, I did a patch deployment this morning. There's now a new button in the Multifit window. See for yourself.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#34 - 2016-08-11 11:59:24 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
Next round will be tomorrow (Friday). Make sure the mails are in before the afternoon, as that's when we'll be pulling more accounts.

Also, I did a patch deployment this morning. There's now a new button in the Multifit window. See for yourself.



Awesomesauce!

Woo! CSM XI!

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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#35 - 2016-08-11 12:50:22 UTC
Awesome work!
Lucas Quaan
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#36 - 2016-08-11 12:58:36 UTC
Give this man a raise!
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#37 - 2016-08-11 13:26:18 UTC
Great work! Also it's all Destoya's fault.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2016-08-11 14:17:17 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
CCP Logibro, your efforts on this are really appreciated. But maybe it would be easiest to just mirror TQ and seed markets same as sisi?


I've mentioned previously in other places my reasoning for this, but I'll put it here so it's a little more permanent.

I want to have a little state data commonality with Tranquility to minimize data leakage, and to give all event organizers as clean of a slate to work from. There is a lot of extra data that comes from Tranquility that we don't really need.

While we don't need to mirror to seed the markets, teams in the past have used market data to infer what they're opponents are up to. Allowing you to magic items into existence means they can't do that.

I've also just imported another batch of user accounts, so check the first post to see if you're on the list!


Good points. Thx for taking the time to explain it.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#39 - 2016-08-11 14:20:31 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
Next round will be tomorrow (Friday). Make sure the mails are in before the afternoon, as that's when we'll be pulling more accounts.

Also, I did a patch deployment this morning. There's now a new button in the Multifit window. See for yourself.


Now we're talkin'!

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2016-08-11 15:02:55 UTC
Also, the server is down at the moment as we're making some changed to some stuff on the backend. Should be up again later today, hopefully paving the way to open up the tournament tool for teams.

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