Player Features and Ideas Discussion

black ops ships are out of balance with each other due to the widow having electronic warefare bonuses and the other 3 not,
the widow gives ecm bonuses which makes it massivly over powered to the other 3,

i read ppl complaining about the black ops not having covops cloaks and the reason is usually something about being overpowered,

however i dont see that 3 out of 4 of them would be overpowered with covops cloaks, only the widow would be,
i think that is what ppl are afraid of, a fleet of covops widows lurking about the system,

so my solution, remove the widows ecm bonuses, i know ppl will outrage about this, so the better solution follows

better solution. give the amarr, galente and minmatar black ops the same bonuses their recon ships have, like the widow already has,

so for amarr, 20% bonus to neut and vamp amount per level,
for gallente 20% bonus to warp disruptor range per level
and minmatar 60% bonus to web range per level

as they are now the caldari black ops has a role other than just a moving jump bridge, the other 3 dont

and about the covops cloak, i think if they had them they would do what they are suppost to do, sneak about behind enemy lines, UNDETECTED, and as them being overpowered, as they are now in a straight fight a standard battleship would win everytime, and they are easy to train for, it shouldnt be so, for the time and isk, black ops should be better, so covops cloak is a must just to give them a chance to choose the battles.

thats my idea to fix the black ops, helpful comments would be appreciated.

dont get me wrong, i fly ecm ships and plan to get a widow, im not complaing about it having ecm, im complaing about the others not having any electronic warefare, imagine if with the recon ships the falcon had ecm and the pilgrim, the arazu and the rapier had nothing but cloak and weapons, would you complain?

The point about a regular BS owning a black ops every time is sad but true.

Cloaking ships can't fight. Not realistic, but it's a game. Game designers make arbitrary decisions to make games more popular.

The Black Ops boats can't fight, and can't really cloak. Not any better than any other ship in the game.
And who really cares if it has no targeting delay after cloaking, when it still needs the enemy pilot to be afk to win against it's T1 counterpart?

A fleet of thrashers can do the same thing, far more cheaply.

And they can surprise you, have no doubt, they can wait for targets 1 system out, with a CovOps to tip em off when to gate over and attack.

so following this logics pretty each single shiptype in eve is obsolete because everything can be done with a fleet of thrashers. Great point.

I would like to see a regular Jump bridge module for the Black ops
Though its CPU and Power grid should be so high that the Black ops would not be able to fit much else.

This would allow younger alliances to use of a mobile Jump Bridge technology.

Possibly requiring modified spooling up Cyno beacon to limit the size of ships per time to jump though, first tackle then Cruisers, Battle Ships, and after 30 seconds Freighters.

No.

Capitals or t2 Caps need anti super EWAR.

If anything, sub caps should be nerfed into a life where they are useless against supers and vice versa... o wait... the inverse is already here with Sub-caps Online.

Nerfing titans is a bit of a reach, considering it won't change their capabilities. And I must wonder, do you believe they existed that much just for the bridge ability?

I believe you are stretching the concept that this will reduce demand, or need, for them.

You do realize, that keeping this ability deliberately away from corps, just because they cannot field a titan, is elitist?

It makes nullspace more accessible to allow this, giving the edge to superior tactics instead of superior wallets.

BO are fine as they are. Hit&Run weapons.

CovOps cloak would make them OP.