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Question about Mercoxit Mining and Mining Laser Turrets

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Bernard Quinn
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-08-08 14:54:40 UTC
While playing around with PyFA and mining, I took a look at Mercoxit. I was very surprised, as the Modulated Deep Core Miner II, able to use a Mercoxit Mining Crystal (and even going so far in the description to mention its use for Mercoxit), is worse at mining Mercoxit than a Miner II, even when using the T2 Mercoxit crystal.

The MDCM II mines (at a base) 40 m3 per minute, and the T2 crystal boosts that by 37.5%, making it 55 m3 per minute.

But the Miner II's base is 60 m3 per minute.

It seems that the MDCM II is better on all other ores when using a T2 crystal (75% increase, making it 70 m3 per minute), but on the one ore that its very description says it's supposed to be good at, it can't beat out the generalized Miner II.

Am I reading something wrong in all this?
Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#2 - 2016-08-08 15:20:15 UTC
The tiny detail that you're missing is: only Deep Core lasers can mine Mercoxit, regular (strip) miners can't.

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Bernard Quinn
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-08-08 15:22:40 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
The tiny detail that you're missing is: only Deep Core lasers can mine Mercoxit, regular (strip) miners can't.

That's one heck of a detail that I managed to miss.

Thank you for pointing it out!
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#4 - 2016-08-09 14:44:09 UTC
The funny thing with the DCML II is, that a Rokh with 8 of them has similiar (or better) yield than a Procurer / Retriever.
CCP, can we have an Ore-Bay for the Rokh please?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2016-08-09 19:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Bernard Quinn wrote:
Sarah Flynt wrote:
The tiny detail that you're missing is: only Deep Core lasers can mine Mercoxit, regular (strip) miners can't.

That's one heck of a detail that I managed to miss.

Thank you for pointing it out!

Also note that since Mercoxit cannot be harvested with the same yield as the other ores, Mercoxit is worth less per m3.

To normalize the m3 price of Mercoxit, so you can compare it to the same m3 price of other ores, multiply it by 0.546

At current prices, Mercoxit is worth slightly less per m3 than Arkonor.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#6 - 2016-08-10 00:31:52 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Bernard Quinn wrote:
Sarah Flynt wrote:
The tiny detail that you're missing is: only Deep Core lasers can mine Mercoxit, regular (strip) miners can't.

That's one heck of a detail that I managed to miss.

Thank you for pointing it out!

Also note that since Mercoxit cannot be harvested with the same yield as the other ores, Mercoxit is worth less per m3.

To normalize the m3 price of Mercoxit, so you can compare it to the same m3 price of other ores, multiply it by 0.546

At current prices, Mercoxit is worth slightly less per m3 than Arkonor.


The yield (and thus ISK/hr) is reduced, but not the value per m³ :P
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2016-08-11 17:44:02 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Bernard Quinn wrote:
Sarah Flynt wrote:
The tiny detail that you're missing is: only Deep Core lasers can mine Mercoxit, regular (strip) miners can't.

That's one heck of a detail that I managed to miss.

Thank you for pointing it out!

Also note that since Mercoxit cannot be harvested with the same yield as the other ores, Mercoxit is worth less per m3.

To normalize the m3 price of Mercoxit, so you can compare it to the same m3 price of other ores, multiply it by 0.546

At current prices, Mercoxit is worth slightly less per m3 than Arkonor.


The yield (and thus ISK/hr) is reduced, but not the value per m³ :P

When you are trying to decide what to mine based on price, it matters.

If you are trading it on the market, then no.