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Modifying Market Order Prices Minimum

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Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-08-03 15:55:47 UTC
Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Its toally stupid because you get the same benefit as a .01 change to appear as cheapest by sorting as you do by 1000 isk.

Make people actually undercut not just play a childish micromanagement game for no reason.

Make it a percentage like idk 5% of the original value or something.

Make my time managing orders worthwhile.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2016-08-03 16:06:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
for no reason.
There is a reason economics man.
Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things.

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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-08-03 16:12:00 UTC
Quote:
Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change?
Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest.
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-08-03 16:24:56 UTC
Eli Stan wrote:
Quote:
Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change?
Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest.

undercutting by .01 to be cheapest is a load of crap.
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-08-03 16:25:42 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
for no reason.
There is a reason economics man.
Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things.

How about you read what I said.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#6 - 2016-08-03 16:42:05 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

Make my time managing orders worthwhile.

Wait...have I been playing "Brigadine Ferathine Online" this whole time I thought I was playing "EvE Online?"

I have NOT been playing as if the entire game revolves around one animated virtual representation of a game player.

How have I made it this far??

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#7 - 2016-08-03 16:45:43 UTC
Hello William?

Why do people post the same topic 20 times after it gets locked? It is just going to get locked *again*...

Oh right...just forum trolls...

Move along.

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Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-08-03 17:02:10 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Hello William?

Why do people post the same topic 20 times after it gets locked? It is just going to get locked *again*...

Oh right...just forum trolls...

Move along.

How on earth is this trolling?
Secondly, I haven't ever seen that thread before.

This is a legitimate issue that affects the economy. Nowhere am I trying to create an 'emotional' response. I am trying to point out the logical issue.

lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?

Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense.
Memphis Baas
#9 - 2016-08-03 17:06:12 UTC
Eli Stan wrote:
Quote:
Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change?
Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest.


He is right.

You're not asking CCP to prevent each of us from changing our own orders by 0.01 ISK, you're asking CCP to prevent each of us from underbidding YOU by 0.01 ISK.

You fail to understand the market. You're not competing with bots who spam 0.01 isk, you're competing with 30,000 veterans, and we're all outbidding each other, and you.
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2016-08-03 17:10:44 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01)


Walmart undercuts Target, Best-Buy, and any and all smaller mom-and-pop shops by 0.01 Dollars (1 cent) ALL the TIME. They undercut by the smallest possible amount of currency that exists. Everybody in RL does this.

You are not forced to go shop at Walmart any more than you are forced to shop at Jita. As a matter of fact, the citadels they've put up around Jita are there specifically for that, to avoid the Walmart price. And taxes.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-08-03 17:33:36 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?


I have two supermarkets near me. Tesco sell diesel at 108.99p per litre and Asda sells at 108.98p per litre. Granted I don't get my diesel at either because supermarket fuel fucks your filters but just saying.
Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2016-08-03 17:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
for no reason.
There is a reason economics man.
Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things.

How about you read what I said.

I did, how about you take a few classes like I said so we can avoid these idiotic self serving posts which in reality would hurt you more than it helps.

Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense.

It most certainly is nonsense, at least for anyone who doesn't have a controlling share of the market. Making the change you are suggesting creates a situation where those without sufficient capital simply cannot compete.

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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#13 - 2016-08-03 17:51:35 UTC
Whatever's ravaging this place must be contagious. ISDs should lock down the forums and bring in the hazmat team.

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Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#14 - 2016-08-03 18:08:06 UTC
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:
Whatever's ravaging this place must be contagious. ISDs should lock down the forums and bring in the hazmat team.



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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-08-03 18:10:18 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy.
Why would you say such a claim? Support your statement.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#16 - 2016-08-03 18:15:50 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?

Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense.

I tell you what...

Lets *NOT* say 1 isk = 1 penny.

Lets say 1 isk = 100 million billion Dollars (I'm guessing you are American by your use of penny - if not use your own large-money units please).

Now when they undercut you by 0.01 isk they are actually undercutting you by 1 million billion Dollars.

Problem solved.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#17 - 2016-08-03 18:31:47 UTC
I demand recompensation for clicking this thread and replying in it.
Send me 0.1 ISK.

x 1 000 000 times

Try to make your time worthwile this time.

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Bishop Bob
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2016-08-03 19:08:02 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Eli Stan wrote:
Quote:
Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change?
Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest.

undercutting by .01 to be cheapest is a load of crap.


Undercutting by the minimum amount possible is market economics.

Posting uneducated comments on forums is a load of crap, though.
Serene Repose
#19 - 2016-08-03 19:16:11 UTC
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2016-08-03 19:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you?
Yes, every day (in Asda, a Walmart company); all of the large chains do it.

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Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist.
Tell that to the banks, they're sat on millions of fractions of a penny. Fractions of a penny crops up in film too, in Superman 3 Richard Prior hacks an accounts system to put all of the fractions of a cent into his wage cheque; Office Space features somebody doing exactly the same.

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Does any currency on earth work like that?
Does any currency not work like that?

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Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense.
You're wrong, it is nonsense.

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