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Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-08-02 15:27:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mattheus Eldridge
Hi,

I'm new to the game, and today was not a good day for me.

Today, I got ganked by two players in high sec (0.6 Hagaken). One of their colleagues sent me a mail saying I was mining without a permit and was AFK. Apparently, these things are a criminal offense towards them.

So I had a conversation with this guy who sent me the mail who was terribly serious about abiding and agreeing to their rules. Said I needed to pay them 10m for a permit. This guy then decided I wasn't fit to get one due to my attitude towards him, and quit our private convo. I was forced to message him back since I wanted to keep mining without interruptions. He then wanted me to pay 30m since I was on their red list or something.

So I sent the guy 30m. He gave me a permit and said I need to display it in my bio. Then he said the corp I was in at that time did not have a good standing with their alliance or something, so I was forced to leave the corp as well. Lastly, they wouldn't allow me to fly a Retriever and forced me to comply with their rules to fly a Procurer or Skiff.

This is ridiculous. Can anyone help me get protection from these guys? It looks like they are led by a so-called saviour of hisec James 315.

What is wrong with me trying to play the game solo and do whatever I want? I need help or advice.

Thanks
Yochi Miyatsuda
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-08-02 15:29:00 UTC
3...2...1...
Memphis Baas
#3 - 2016-08-02 15:34:06 UTC
Just so you know, only CODE alts link their website in their "complaint" post, and you are a CODE alt.

So, forget it.
Yochi Miyatsuda
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-08-02 15:36:40 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Just so you know, only CODE alts link their website in their "complaint" post, and you are a CODE alt.

So, forget it.


THERE IT IS!

***WE HAVE A WINNER***

HER IQ IS OFF THE CHARTS, LADIES & GENTLEMEN! Lol
Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-08-02 15:39:59 UTC
I don't even know what's going. What are you guys talking about???
Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-08-02 15:40:46 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Just so you know, only CODE alts link their website in their "complaint" post, and you are a CODE alt.

So, forget it.


What is a CODE alt? I am not a CODE alt.
Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#7 - 2016-08-02 15:41:50 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
What is wrong with me trying to play the game solo and do whatever I want? I need help or advice.



What is wrong with them trying to play the game sole and do whatever they want?

EVE is a MMO PvP oriented game were you are not safe anywhere. PERIOD.

If you are truly a new player, you need to learn that really quickly. But I'm guessing that the amount of time you spend in (eve on your first day) means that you are in fact not a new player and just another whiner attention seeker type...

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#8 - 2016-08-02 15:44:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Shallanna Yassavi
No, we can just tell you how not to get ganked:
Ventures are fast. Run an afterburner, and they won't be able to catch it with the catalyst fits they like to use.
Hulks and retrievers are squishy. If you aren't paying careful attention, they're easy to kill.
Procurers with damage controls and a lot of shield hardeners are stupid expensive to gank.

EVE actually is a dangerous place. It's boring without people trying to kill you and take your stuff.

A signature :o
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#9 - 2016-08-02 15:45:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
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☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Yochi Miyatsuda
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-08-02 15:46:29 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-08-02 15:46:34 UTC
Caco De'mon wrote:
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
What is wrong with me trying to play the game solo and do whatever I want? I need help or advice.



What is wrong with them trying to play the game sole and do whatever they want?

EVE is a MMO PvP oriented game were you are not safe anywhere. PERIOD.

If you are truly a new player, you need to learn that really quickly. But I'm guessing that the amount of time you spend in (eve on your first day) means that you are in fact not a new player and just another whiner attention seeker type...



I am aware that it is PVP oriented, and all along I though I was safe to mine in Hi sec. PERIOD.
Player-driven government or whatever you call it is bad. If I don't abide to their rules and pay for their "permit", where should I go then?

I am a new player and I only know the basics of the game. I don't know what all these fancy talk about CODEs and stuffs are all about. I am out of Rookie Help chat so I've been playing more than a month, but I consider myself new.

And no, I am not just another whiner attention seeker type, but I'm sure you are an arrogant douche in real life buddy.
Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-08-02 15:48:32 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
No, we can just tell you how not to get ganked:
Ventures are fast. Run an afterburner, and they won't be able to catch it with the catalyst fits they like to use.
Hulks and retrievers are squishy. If you aren't paying careful attention, they're easy to kill.
Procurers with damage controls and a lot of shield hardeners are stupid expensive to gank.

EVE actually is a dangerous place. It's boring without people trying to kill you and take your stuff.


What bothers me is that it's even dangerous in high sec? What about new players like me that are forced to adapt to this kind of rule. Their CODE is pure BS.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#13 - 2016-08-02 15:50:56 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
No, we can just tell you how not to get ganked:
Ventures are fast. Run an afterburner, and they won't be able to catch it with the catalyst fits they like to use.
Hulks and retrievers are squishy. If you aren't paying careful attention, they're easy to kill.
Procurers with damage controls and a lot of shield hardeners are stupid expensive to gank.

EVE actually is a dangerous place. It's boring without people trying to kill you and take your stuff.


What bothers me is that it's even dangerous in high sec? What about new players like me that are forced to adapt to this kind of rule. Their CODE is pure BS.



You pays your money, you takes your chances.
















☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#14 - 2016-08-02 15:52:25 UTC
stop writing "code" in capitals, you make them sound relevant

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Mattheus Eldridge
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-08-02 15:54:38 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
stop writing "code" in capitals, you make them sound relevant


Memphis Baas wrote code in caps, so I'm following whatever this person wrote. CODE? What does CODE stand for?
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#16 - 2016-08-02 15:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
Hi,

I'm new to the game, and today was not a good day for me.

Today, I got ganked by two players in high sec (0.6 Hagaken). One of their colleagues sent me a mail saying I was mining without a permit and was AFK. Apparently, these things are a criminal offense towards them.

So I had a conversation with this guy who sent me the mail who was terribly serious about abiding and agreeing to their rules. Said I needed to pay them 10m for a permit. This guy then decided I wasn't fit to get one due to my attitude towards him, and quit our private convo. I was forced to message him back since I wanted to keep mining without interruptions. He then wanted me to pay 30m since I was on their red list or something.

So I sent the guy 30m. He gave me a permit and said I need to display it in my bio. Then he said the corp I was in at that time did not have a good standing with their alliance or something, so I was forced to leave the corp as well. Lastly, they wouldn't allow me to fly a Retriever and forced me to comply with their rules to fly a Procurer or Skiff.

This is ridiculous. Can anyone help me get protection from these guys? It looks like they are led by a so-called saviour of hisec James 315. This is their website: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html.

What is wrong with me trying to play the game solo and do whatever I want? I need help or advice.

Thanks




"code" by all means tries to racketeer players by extorting money in exchange of service that CONCORD does for free. Best part, is when things like Jitaburn happens they are nowehre to be seen. At least you know their legal name and I just can't wait when imperial alliances and corporations buckle up and wardec "code" out of existence.

Also, the idea is not that brilliant, specially in long term. Forcing weak players to pay will make them leave this game and not spend on it or/and will make them join corps that will anihilate "code" in near future.Pirate

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#17 - 2016-08-02 15:55:59 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Lan Wang wrote:
stop writing "code" in capitals, you make them sound relevant


You read my mind. Also they are just high sec thugs who will get punished. Remember that.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#18 - 2016-08-02 15:57:49 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
Caco De'mon wrote:
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
What is wrong with me trying to play the game solo and do whatever I want? I need help or advice.



What is wrong with them trying to play the game sole and do whatever they want?

EVE is a MMO PvP oriented game were you are not safe anywhere. PERIOD.

If you are truly a new player, you need to learn that really quickly. But I'm guessing that the amount of time you spend in (eve on your first day) means that you are in fact not a new player and just another whiner attention seeker type...



I am aware that it is PVP oriented, and all along I though I was safe to mine in Hi sec. PERIOD.
Player-driven government or whatever you call it is bad. If I don't abide to their rules and pay for their "permit", where should I go then?

I am a new player and I only know the basics of the game. I don't know what all these fancy talk about CODEs and stuffs are all about. I am out of Rookie Help chat so I've been playing more than a month, but I consider myself new.

And no, I am not just another whiner attention seeker type, but I'm sure you are an arrogant douche in real life buddy.


Best chance, you will end up not mining and instead leaving game or fighting them.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#19 - 2016-08-02 15:57:54 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
I am aware that it is PVP oriented, and all along I though I was safe to mine in Hi sec.

That is your assumption...which was wrong. In any game, it is the players responsibility to educate themselves as to how the mechanics work.

Read 5.3
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf



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Player-driven government or whatever you call it is bad. If I don't abide to their rules and pay for their "permit", where should I go then?

In a MMO, really, what did you expect? As for where you should go, how about you ask "How do I survive" or "How do I mine safely?". Running away is not the first thing you should be thinking of.



Quote:
I am a new player and I only know the basics of the game.

Doubtful...new players don't run to LowSec on their first day...


Quote:
And no, I am not just another whiner attention seeker type, but I'm sure you are an arrogant douche in real life buddy.
LOL...try harder...

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#20 - 2016-08-02 15:59:18 UTC
Mattheus Eldridge wrote:
What bothers me is that it's even dangerous in high sec? What about new players like me that are forced to adapt to this kind of rule. Their CODE is pure BS.


Folks, just look at his zkillboard...he's not a new player....just a whiner.

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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