EVE New Citizens Q&A

Nope. If they commit a criminal act, concord will always show up, regardless of what you do.

The moment they shoot, they get the Criminal flag, and Concord is scheduled to come after the number of seconds it takes based on the security level of the solar system where you are.

When you shoot back, you are shooting a criminal, and you also have a limited engagement, so Concord will not attack you too.

The only downside to shooting back is that you'll get the Weapons Timer, which prevents you from docking, jumping through gates, ejecting from your ship, or entering a new ship, for 1 minute.

So if you think you can make it through a gate or dock at a nearby station, don't shoot; your attackers will have the weapons flag and won't be able to follow you for 1 minute. With gate camps, typically this decision is made while you still have the gate invisibility; you're supposed to take advantage of it and look around, figure out what ships they have, and whether you can make it back to the gate.

It resets with every shot.

Which is why if you are going to engage a station game player, make certain you can blast through their tank in a minute... otherwise, don't play.

Alright, cool. I watched a Battlepenguins video where a guy docked in the middle of a fight, and swapped to a different ship. Figure that happened before the timer was introduced...

no no, weapons timer only applies to your offensive modules.
you can de-aggress (60sec timer) and dock/jump mid fight if you have the tank to last.
limited engagement is aggression rights and has no other effects beyond who can shoot whom

i have used this at least twice on pirat.
i started chewing on one of their guardians +5 jumps from amarr ,
didn't have the dps to kill it before every Russian between amarr and jita came pouring into system.
so i pulled my drones in, stopped shooting and i waited till they were all on me and had timers (which was a lot of angry russians)
before blowing razberrys in local jumping the **** out of there.

Ok, now that I know what to look for, re-watching the video, I do see that he turned his offensive modules off for a minute before docking.

Still learn stuff every day here.

It is even funnier (not) when you are the Logi and the fleet is told to deaggress. You sit there continuing to rep people and your aggression counting isn't ticking down.

For those who don't understand the mechanics. Remote repair including cap transfers are not aggressive acts, but you inherit the aggression flag on anyone you rep / cap transfer to. Thus when you rep someone who is shooting, you get a 1 minute agression counter, but when he stops shooting his aggression counter starts falling and so does yours even while you continue to rep him.

Now assume you have got a 20 man fleet with four Guardians all cap chaining off each other. You are losing the battle, so the FC calls to deagress and approach gate. You need to survive for 1 minute before everyone can jump out and the Logi need to keep repping people during that minute. Except one person stays aggressed and if he gets repped by just one of the Guardians the aggression counters passes to that Guardian and then to every other Guardian via the cap transfer chain. All the logi are shouting "WHO IS STILL AGGRESSED, PULL DRONES, PULL DRONES". One minutes passes and the fleet either have to jump out leaving the Logi behind or stay on field longer sacrificing further DPS ships in a desperate attempt to save the Logi.