EVE General Discussion

The over use of the word incompetent is fairly amusing, and is a mantra for the gankers and people who support them to hang onto for dear life as it makes them feel better.

Anti-Ganking is hard, the cards are stacked against you, and whats more there is no income in it. You do it because you chose to resist against the gankers, every so often someone gives you ISK for saving them. Most of the people doing it are using their alts to get into base level ships and try to help stop a gank.

The incompetence is basically that you cannot gank the Macherial with people who can fly T1 logis or T1 jamming ships, you cannot stop the fast warping SB's and Catalysts from leaving the in gate, they all jump together causing lag so its difficult to catch their BC's. When they land you have three choices, rep the target, jam the gankers or blow up the gankers, repping does work, but you need enough logi, jamming is very hit and miss and easily counted, as they fit sensor boosters with ECM scripts and killing them is a race against time and they always bring more than they need to kill the freighter. Another option is to bump the freighter out of optimal which worked until te gankers switched to SB's which in any case suits multi boxes like Kusion.

The weak spot was the wrecks, some players were in Rifters using toons they had no issue being criminal with, they would warp in as the gank was ending and target the wreck at their optimal. That got removed by the gankers crying to the CSM and CCP, that was the one activity that was the same as the gankers small fast ships difficult to stop. They were incompetent as they could not stop it and cried to CCP.

Next up is loot scooping, using a freighter is not an option, it will just get bumped, one trick is to bump the freighter way away, another is to bump the DST or blow up the noob ships as soon as it goes suspect. Another is to grab the loot if you can, but there are a lot of trigger happy people around who blap anyone who goes suspect. One time I went suspect to rep a guy in a duel and an AG started to attack me, luckily he was incompetent and did not get a point so I had to warp out.

Sometimes the gankers make an error like scooping directly into the freighter and they die.

Offensive actions are in reality counter ganking, and the one that was easiest was just taken away by the ganker whining to CCP.

So the AG are by definition incompetent, but it is not a surprise when the mechanics are so loaded against them, if it was easy they would not fail so often.

Earlier on I detailed some of the balance changes that CCP could do to make it more challenging for the industrial level gankers and did you see the crying that produced. Was classic.

Let me me blunt I would love to have the wrecks back at 500 EHP and drop the EHP of freighters back down, how about it gankers do we have a deal? Here is betting that they would not accept that at all...

So calling AG incompetent is very wide of the mark, I do it every so often, mainly because I do other things, most people are like me. Its like you being a Merc and only doing it every so often because you have no watch list, is that incompetence?

lol.

The right way to say that is "Works in EvE too....in places where you can get people to cooperate with each other". Hisec isn't one of those places.

Hopefully they undo the raw hp buff they did last time and instead give them the buff via fitting options so that at least some skill is returned to flying them and people have a reason to use all of them. I would also revamp the ore holds so cargo expanders can be a real option. Bring back hard decisions when fitting these ships and a bit of verity.

I think that would be suicidal for CCP, though you never know they do tend to make it easy for you lot...

Gonna have to explain why giving more options to miners to fit their ships in a meaningful way would be suicidal for CCP. Especially given that every single combat ship operates in this way.

It is a request for key details and understanding on certain issues which your simplistic detail is lacking in terms of validating your convoy suggestion. For example what mechanics get in the way? What would you do for example if a blackbird warps down, and its a known ganker alt, that will point your freighter and prevent it from warping, how would you deal with that? This is basic stuff, come on show me your brilliance.

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"choose". Except every choice other than tank is "stupid" -- why insist on choice if all you ever say is what people should choose anyway?

This I would like to know. I have three lowslots. I don't feel like I have any choice-- an Orca gets more EHP than my triple bulkhead freighter. So there's that.

Rubbish, I add to it because I want you lot to have to work to kill me, but if people want to fit cargo expanders to increase the ore bay let them.

...which we would then call "Retriever" and call that our Choice, yes?