Wormholes

Due to the recent decrease in active groups in wormhole space due to the recent patch changing the mechanics of capital escalations & the way C5 & C6 sites are run, theres been a reoccuring issue that id like CCP to consider adressing.

At the current state like before the patch, combat anomalies had a certain lifetime within a wormhole. If untouched it had a given lifespawn which is (as far as i know) unknown to the public. However he was given than if a wormhole site was activated ( warped into) the site would not last more than 4 days before despawning & reoccuring elsewhere.

This mechanic was / is still working as before the patch, but a new trend is taking over. Due to the new mechanics of escalations & site running, sites from active systems are much fater being despawned as they are finished & therefore moved to a new location. This in itself is not an issue as this way of things would be perfect, assuming there is a large quantity of groups running sites throughout all of wormhole space.

However due to the migration of wormholes groups caused by the removal of the old farming potential of wormholes, much less groups now exist in wormhole space. This causes an issue with maintaining the old system of site despawning.

At the current rate active systems and kept at a starvation level of sites, while the systems with no occupants are bring flushed with new spawning sites which are never engaged & therefore will not be spread elsewhere untill someone either comes by & activates them, or the natural lifetime ends.

This makes it even harder for a group to maintain a sytem in wormholes space & will create a spiral of fewer & fewer players within wormhole space which then causes fewer people running sites and so on.

All this while Nullsec has the capability of having infinite sites, more and more wormhole occupants see it being more benefitial living in nullsec. This is not to say nullsec is overpowered or anything else is, merely that more nullsec groups decide that wormhole space is not worthwhile, from a financial point of view.

*Proposal*

My proposal to counteract this issue & create more interest in the wormhole community would be to reduce the despawn time of sites within wormhole space. An idea would be to reduce the "activated" despawn time from 4 days to 2, while reducing the natual despawn time to something like 5 days.

This would create a much more fast flow of sites throughout wormholespace, meaning a system (in theory) would never be empty of sites for more than 24hrs in a row.

I like this idea.

not quite that easy, since this post is about high class (C5 & 6) wormholes and my static is in the low end :)

That's your own fault.

You do understand this is an intended feature of the site running changes right?
The whole POINT of making sites unfarmable across 4 days was to encourage people to run sites out of their homes and in generally have to be more active in their connecting chain(s) rather than logging in for an hour a day and farming all their sites.
This is also the reason that the vast majority of a site's value can now be extracted with only subcaps so that people can farm in statics effectively.
Additionally, the aim was most certainly to reduce the income in high end WHs so there's no reason at all for CCP to cater to your carebear wishes.

basically; it's a feature, not a bug. deal with it.

Oh I understand exactly what youre saying, youre saying you want to make more money easier without needing to risk leaving your home system by having a higher site spawn rate to negate the very deliberate reduction of local farming income.
What im saying is; it's not gonna happen, get over it.

few things:
- local farming is not removed, sites do still spawn in your home system
- you dont need a c5/6-c5/6 hole, just any kind of access to a c5/6 hole

if you want to run C5 site 24/7, setup in a C2-ns/c5 and run them all day long to your heart's content. there's nothing stopping you from runnin g all the c5 sites in the world other than your inability to adapt to change.

except this isnt true, so... what's your point?
im sure some farmers left yes, no im not going to shed any tears for those people since they dont bring actual content to wspace.

high end wspace has been a bad joke for years now, this change did nothing to change that and actually may well help start bringing it back into balance if even more of the farming mentality f*cks off.

what EXACTLY are we losing from farmers moving out of wspace?

I was a die hard Wormhole resident before the WH nerfs, and I did both solo escalation farming and big group escalation farming. It was amazing isk, and it needed to be nerfed. I agree with the OP that the nerf was a bit too harsh.

However, my solution would be different from the OP. In particular, solo escalation needed the biggest hit, while big group escalations really only needed a minor hit. The problem is that the current mechanics actually make it much worse for big groups, while only making it a bit harder for the solo farmers.

What I would suggest would be a reduction of the HP of the escalation boss by 50% and a reduce in the effectiveness of his neuts against subcaps by 50%.

The problem is that to take him out with a subcap fleet takes a really significant fleet, and even with that fleet, it takes a long time to do it. It's actually better isk/hour to solo sites without the boss in a Paladin than it is to get together 6 of your friends and take out the site and boss with subcaps.

After the wormhole changes, we moved from our C5 into a C2 with a C5 static, intending to farm our static for isk, but the isk was just so bad that most of us gave up on it and went back to solo farming or moved to null.

I would love to see a situation where it is isk efficient to clear sites with bosses in non-home wormholes, which would also achieve the OP's goal of cycling the sites faster.

Content for those that actually hunt and kill the farmers? Really? Lol

I agree that C5 & C6 space has been OP in terms of isk making, but forcing people to farm in their statics as the ONLY resort of making half decent isk ( which is about on par with nullsec farming now ) is like telling nullsecers that they HAVE to farm their afk anoms 10 jumps from their home.

Imo there needs to be made a change not towards the old system, but something that allows a bigger flow of anomalies in WH space isn't a bad idea.

Besides who does this change hurt? and how would it make WHs "a joke" again?
Its still hard to run a site in a stupidly fast fashion.