EVE General Discussion

That's an interesting question, although I'd expect the answer would be "it depends" in most cases.

1. If hypothetical new space has some obvious/unique material value to an explorer and he/she can exploit it without the assistance of other players then one might expect them to keep it secret.


2. If hypothetical new space has obvious material value, but requires collaboration (e.g. like sites in a class 5/6) to exploit effectively then one might expect the explorer to share the knowledge with other players, at which point the chance of disclosure rises sharply even if it is a small/trusted group.


3. If hypothetical new space has no obvious material value then there's no reason not to tell anyone else about it.

So to counter Eternus8lux8lucis's point about information dissemination, CCP would need to make hypothetical new systems more difficult to find/map than wormhole space, valuable enough for players to keep quiet about it if they strike lucky, and easy enough to exploit without a massive crowd.

Expanding 0.0 type space, as-is, won't add anything to the game.

Absolutely keep it to myself. The most successful people are the ones virtually no one hears about. Becoming e-famous simply puts a target on your back. We only hear about the second most successful/enterprising group of people

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Hope not. One of the disconnected $1000-jean-wearing decision-makers might think this is a great idea without considering that players might interpret this as a big sign of the game shutting down soon.

It'll be like minecraft multiplayer. You'll spawn, and find your own place to build. Then a whole bunch of diamond armor, golden apple, sharpness 10, protection 10 assholes will come and repeatedly spawn kill you and burn/TNT your stuff.

"Forget new systems, make planets (and moons and belts) orbit their star! That way, every system is "new" every time you jump in."

I like this Idea ......

Yeah Null is very unfriendly to solo peeps.

Lorewise they'd stomp all over us, barring an apocalypse on the other side of the gate they'd have 20,000+ years of almost continual development on us; making their tech at least as sweet as that of the Jove (Concord uses Jovian tech).

In Eve the closure of the Eve gate was literally Armageddon, the population of New Eden descended into the dark ages, cut off from supplies and knowledge, they died in their millions and the survivors lost contact with each other.

It took thousands of years for the people of New Eden to venture back to the stars according to the Odyssey trailer. The old intro goes into the whole saga of the Eve gate collapse, and the after-effects in New Eden, in more detail.

IIRC that ratio refers to characters, not players, this being a game of alts and all. I could well be wrong though, as a quick google yielded no immediate fruit to confirm it one way or the other.

There's an assumption being made there that I don't think is entirely valid.

Remember they wanted to leave Earth and the near region because all the resources were tapped and being exhausted. The WH appeared and then everyone clamored to get to New Eden.

Lore-wise, it would be anyone's guess as to what happened on the other side. It's entirely possible that it devolved worse than New Eden did and massive wars grinding them back into the early Industrial eras. Who know what horrors were unleashed on those left behind.

So yes, Jonah's version is just one of almost countless possibilities that happened. That is why actually WRITING a new chapter and rediscovering the gate back to the home-world would be a massively new chapter of EVE.

There are a lot of compelling stories in EVE, but this one would probably draw the most massive attention. CCP won't do something of this size though until they have a huge dynamic imbalance in the game they need to settle. I think this latest war and Citadels took out a lot of incentive to do that, the ISK imbalance has probably swung back for a while. If it gets really out of whack again, I'd expect something big to happen, maybe even a story line of this size.

CCP has given players so many tools, for the life of me I can't see how "gate camps!" can still be used as an excuse. Their are jump capable ships (get someone to light you a cyno and jump a blops in, or get someone with a blops to jump you in in something as cheap as a bomber or an astero), their are interdiction nullfied ships (the yacht, interceptors, Tech3 cruisers), and their are wormholes that let you go ANYWHERE while bypassing all or most gates.

People limiting themselves out of ignorance or risk/loss aversion is the only reason anyone would care about gate camping in 2016.