Intergalactic Summit

I'd like to discuss our friendly DED overlord and what I see as favoritism. In before thread lock and delete. As a capsuleer, I realize freedom of expression is critical. However, two pilots above all others have proven they are willing to use lies, threats, and toxicity incessantly in threads about everything from baked goods to madlibs. And yet, if someone criticizes them, or suggests to others they avoid these two, it is "going too far". It is clear that our DED friend, Aux Aliette, really appreciates the two loudest instigators. It is inherently unfair to others that they are allowed to continue their loud disruptions while everyone else is gagged for the slightest mis-step.

I'd like a new moderator, one that is actually impartial, and for this one removed.

Was it a ban? I'd assumed it was a thread closure and warning.

That said, hm.

On one hand, I understand the desire to be even-handed, and to allow pilots to suffer the reputational blowback from their interactions with others. I assume this is why almost two years of constant Kim derailments and harassment in my threads-- usually concerning IKAME, ARC, or anything we touch --has merited no intervention, even when Kim's closest associates are brought into play in a targeted fashion.

On the other hand, there have been back channel rumblings about how 'coordinated reporting campaigns will result in bans,' to paraphrase, presumably because of reports on Kim's actions. Of course, there hasn't been any coordinated campaign, but, well, the CRC will believe what it wishes to believe.

And so here we have Aliette closing a thread resulting from reputational blowback, while also failing to act against repeated transgressions by Kim in the past. What's more, Kim's presence is such that even people who disagree with her strongly sometimes won't engage with her on these forums, because of how thoroughly she closes off conversation in a thread where she's engaged.

Aliette's lack of willingness to police the actions of Diana Kim has resulted in a chilling effect on this forum.

So-- I wonder. Has Aliette warned Kim to tone it down?

Time will tell.

Mm. Let's see how this plays out. I can only assume that Kim was given a warning on her past behavior, hence her relative quiet these past several days.

I don't think Jason's thread was that horrible considering what I have seen in the past that went on longer. Were warnings given out in the past to the two mentioned people? If not there should have been on many occasions. While I flat out agree that majority of what they said had no place I don't necessarily feel a flat out ban would be required (don't get me wrong they both have gone well above and beyond what should be seen as acceptable) but if they weren't warned, well, aside from common sense and the fact everyone told them to shut up how are they to know they are overstepping anything? Yes I know that should be enough to make them think. Yes I know it's extremely obvious. Feel free to criticize me for playing devil's advocate. It's not like I don't that a ban could and would be completely warranted. It seems he felt self moderation here had alot more of a sway than it actually had, can't blame the guy for expecting better from us all. How many people actually reported posts and such? I think in the last few years I've only reported one or two when I probably should have more.

I have reported several posts in the past, but the lack of any sign of moderation happening and the continuation of reportable posts by the same people, I just grew tired at the fruitlessness of using the report tool as it seemed to have had no impact whatsoever.

Well, atleast somebody has been, things take time to actually work (admittedly it's taken way too long). From what I've seen Slayer, it hasn't exactly been a fury of activity in the last few months, it has been pretty bad in the past.

Who was banned?

Also, impartial moderation never seems fair when you're on the receiving end, as everyone is biased towards themselves.

Actually, I think I've been rather fair about this. I broke the rules, I got a warning. Fine. Now give similar warnings for similar breaking of said rule.

100% fine