Ships & Modules

stratios and proteous can handle more types of ships respect to a stealth bomber. so... yea.

between the two i'd probably opt for the stratios:
- no loss of Sp
- cheaper respect a well fitted proteus
- you can fit it with an all rounded fit while for the proteous you need different subsystems for each fit --> too much compromise

In case you decide for a roam in nullsec, hunting ratters, then the nullifier proteus makes more sense respect a stratios.
And maybe your next step will be in black ops battleships, but for those you need a team etc.

Do the Strat and Proteus have the same targeting time?

The range of the Stratios is a nice advantage. As well as the cargo capacity. Subsystems use up the T3 space quickly.

When I started playing, cloaky proteus's were supposedly everywhere so it was long term goal for me - I guess the SOE ship really changed the equation.

pretty much the same:
the proteus has something more but that's for subsystem bonuses.... so.... not really a problem.

i mean strategic cruiser are still everywhere, specially when it comes to light a cyno

That's sounds more like a Pilgrim. Or it does sound like you cannot ever win any fight without bringing 908928485762 neuts. Neut = ship neutralizer.
Only a ship neutralizer neutralizes ships, there is not other way anymore. If you don't bring neuts, you lose, your character get's biomassed and there isn't any other option - at all.

If your ship doesn't have neut, you cannot neutralize it.

Forget guns, drones, missiles or anything else. The much gooderererererer option is to remove those from the database, they useless anyways.
No gun, or drones or missiles will save you, only neuts do. Fit neuts to any boat out there. Yes even the Falcon. ECM is useless, nobody uses it anymore because neuts = win.

The only thing in EVE is you want to win, every time you undock. Go anywhere an you need neuts. Forget stasis webbifiers or any other mod.

That's why everyone only flies carriers with neuts, motherships with neuts and titans, well they have rapid doomsdays, so they don't need one.
The second you here a doomsday, you dead - BANG.

If you didn't bring neuts, your fault, you could not win without one. Don't ever fit gun on any boat, bring neut.

This is the only possible way. Bring neut and neutralize your enemies with the ship neutralizer. Let the server fight itself with zee drones, everything else is just useless.

Neut and you win EVE.

Not my fault if you refuse to follow the meta Elita

I prefer the stratios. It gets less DPS and less Tank than the proteus but it's by far more versatile. Plus it's spacious cargo hold means you can pretty much carry two fits with you at all times, and still have room for Cap boosters,

Stratios it is then - thanks for the feedback, even if it makes me feel like I missed out on the era of Eve when Proteus was king of solo ganking.

At least for K-space stratios > proteus by a lot, mostly cause the proteus doesnt do great dps and most importantly cant carry neuts.

Just fit it with the standard shield kitey fit with neuts. Something like https://zkillboard.com/kill/54510869/ .


(reason you go shield + neuts is cause you dont want to stay around for long, neut kll the active tanks pveer like to run and the dps means you finish fast, you are kitey and can neut out of scram range so you dont get pinned down, also pve ships usually do 0 real dps to you so tank isnt that important)

Also requires EE-603 or am I missing something?

The uncloaking time delay sux and watching your prey warp of while spamming to lock sux even more. Both ships have their good points and both have the uncloaking delay.

Not trying to derail the thread, but take a look at the recons too. For wh space their d-scan invisibility is pretty powerful. The Lachesis has multipoint options that will hold down those multi stabbed grrr fits. Who doesn't love the curse? Huggin is great for non stabbed opponents. Rook - meh for solo work, you pretty much place an all or nothing bet when you initiate warp to the engagement - it shines brighter in gangs than it does for solo work.

Personally I like the stratios as it provides a lot of fitting options and anyone that can master the stratios (all of it, not just one fit) has got a pretty good grip on the game.


For small to medium gangs, the low dps high buffer cloaky (and worstest of all - interdicted) proteus w/ guardian backup is the most unfun ship in wh space. We just leave if that fleet shows up. Cloaky interdicted stabbed buffer T3 is a SCOUT ship, everyone please stop making it a fleet doctrine once and for all.9 (SHEEEESH).