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The most hated idea ever proposed that only CCP will like

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Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-07-28 12:22:09 UTC
1. Ad a tab to character info.
2. Name tab "Known associates"
3. On that tab list the names of other 2 character that person has on his account
4. Watch number of accounts skyrocket
5. Watch number of subscriptions skyrocket
6. Watch price of plex go up atleast X10
7. Eve fixed Cool

Main issue eve has is the number of players online is actually a lie. The number dosnt represent players but looged in accounts. All MMOs have same issues and that is when 1 person emulats that he is 2 or 3 different people. He dosent play eve 3 times more. he dosent generate content 3 times more. He occupies 3 time more space and that is it.

Its all cause of the spys. Long time ago... (like last pach) when you wanted to spy and gank and be an evil person... you had to invest time, char, build up repore, and then you had to sell that char after you did a nono to somebody who wanted to buy it. With skill extractors the profit/risk ratio of beeing outed has been minimized.

8. Kill character trading.

Just google a common fallacy that rich people generate more income for everybody around them. Nothing wrong with being rich... but you are not adding to society you are extracting form it. Apply that to what you know about EvE. Try to argue your points if you dare but i guarantee you are gonna be using some tehnobabel that makes no sence.

If you are gonna be bad atleast pay the price.


DISCLAMER:
This topic completely endorses ingame scamming, higsec ganking, supercap ganking, spying, disbanding alliances, off lining TCUs, poses, stealing corporation assets, killing your friends with whom you are in corp with, beeing a **** in local, being rude in private chats and on TS, stealing supercaps, stealing frigats, doing trade scams, lying, manipulating markets, being red in local, being blue in local, being cloaked in local, lurking, complaining to CCP, not complaining to CCP, being CCP, trying to assess Jove space in a legal ingame way, participating in an event, not participating in an event, forgetting there is an event, killing people who are participating in an ingame event, disrupting an ingame event, sending ISK to female players for a promises of them sending nudes, sending ISK to male players for a promise of them sending nudes, sending nudes, not sending nudes, lying you are gonna send nudes but sending other peoples non nudes, gambling, cheating while gambling, writing bad posts on eve online forums... and much much more.

Just make it harder for people to emulate greatnes.
Sub 50 accounts, have spies all over, test the limits of the game, but PLAY THE GAME.
Dont pretend you re playing THE GAME.
Pretending to play THE GAME is not PLAYING the game.

If you agree leave a like,
If you dont agree leave a like.

My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2 - 2016-07-28 12:45:30 UTC
I hate it

But you got a like for the disclaimer.

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Memphis Baas
#3 - 2016-07-28 13:39:38 UTC
That's the main issue EVE has? That it doesn't show the number of actual RL persons playing, but rather the number of accounts that are logged in? Really?

And this is an issue and different from other MMO's how?

In any case, we've had API's for a long time; all my current corpies, my past corpies, and all their spies, and the corps that they spy for (all my current enemies, and my past enemies), know exactly which alts I have.

So go ahead and show my alt (Merouk Baas) in Show Info, I don't really care. Won't be any extra subscriptions for me, I'm already set up for "privacy" for the spies. No wallet transactions, no item transfers, no email communications, no imported overviews, nothing.

Your feature won't cause the creation of extra accounts.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-07-28 13:41:56 UTC
This would be looked upon as the cheapest trick in the book on how to increase profit.

And by that, I mean hell no to your idea.
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#5 - 2016-07-28 13:43:32 UTC
Quote:
Main issue eve has is the number of players online is actually a lie. The number dosnt represent players but looged in accounts. All MMOs have same issues and that is when 1 person emulats that he is 2 or 3 different people. He dosent play eve 3 times more. he dosent generate content 3 times more. He occupies 3 time more space and that is it.


So you want to fix EVE by inflating this "main issue"?
Memphis Baas
#6 - 2016-07-28 13:58:58 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
This would be looked upon as the cheapest trick in the book on how to increase profit.


Nah, it won't even work for that purpose. I mean, they've had cheap tricks before (overpriced ship skins that only work on one ship, overpriced NEX outfits, overpriced skill injectors with diminishing returns penalties).

Forcing someone to hide their alts won't create more characters. I mean, right now skill farming is the rage; guy creates 227 accounts to skill farm, there's no way you'll match that with this proposed feature.

Cheapest trick in the book for increasing profit has been the skill injectors, as evidenced by the 227 accounts guy.
Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-07-28 14:01:53 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:

And this is an issue and different from other MMO's how?


Eve has only 1 server.
99.99% of other mmos are character oriented while eve is effort oriented.
When an ingame character waists your time thats game mechanic. When a player using eve waists other players time thats not game mechanic.
Point is the risk/reward balance. There is no risk in being evil cause there are 50 tools to help you.
Look at everything not just yourself. Of course its not gonna stop anything(we all know everybody in eve is a spy no point in going that way).... it will make it REAL.


Did i realy need to write this? Couldn't you read the disclaimer.

I will broaden some stuff now.
It will not be realy well writen. Reread if you have to.

Why is it safer to live in WH and 0.0 space then in Hi-sec?
Because when you are "evil" you will get punished accordingly by people who know how to punish people whom they dont like.

Why is there so much hate talk about high sec?
Cause there are no tools to punish an "evil" person.


Dont rest your whole theory that there is API cavity search that apparently solves all problems... we are talking deeper.... you need to go deeper... at least up to the elbow deep into a problem. think bigger.... ponder on the theory a moment.... just think all that it will acheave.

My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.

Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-07-28 14:04:34 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
Main issue eve has is the number of players online is actually a lie. The number dosnt represent players but looged in accounts. All MMOs have same issues and that is when 1 person emulats that he is 2 or 3 different people. He dosent play eve 3 times more. he dosent generate content 3 times more. He occupies 3 time more space and that is it.


So you want to fix EVE by inflating this "main issue"?


there are 5 more sentences after the 1st one.


And one more that is separates into an individual paragraft that ties into the quoted part.

My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.

Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#9 - 2016-07-29 00:56:29 UTC
Nobody needs to know who my alts are.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2016-07-29 06:29:03 UTC
What will knowing a PI alt and a jita alt actually tell you about me though?
Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-07-29 09:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagan Storm
Danika Princip wrote:
What will knowing a PI alt and a jita alt actually tell you about me though?



Nothing. Thats the point. in 95% of the cases it would tell you nothing.

Basically it would treat the entire account as an entity... not each char individual.



I do admit this idea would have been better before the skill extraction and would make much more sence.... but life goes on.

My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2016-07-29 21:24:11 UTC
Kagan Storm wrote:
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
Main issue eve has is the number of players online is actually a lie. The number dosnt represent players but looged in accounts. All MMOs have same issues and that is when 1 person emulats that he is 2 or 3 different people. He dosent play eve 3 times more. he dosent generate content 3 times more. He occupies 3 time more space and that is it.


So you want to fix EVE by inflating this "main issue"?


there are 5 more sentences after the 1st one.


And one more that is separates into an individual paragraft that ties into the quoted part.



Doesnt change the fact the idea is bollocks though. It will achieve literally nothing since every single thing hes bloviating about is already available via the API as Memphis has already pointed out.

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Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-07-29 21:55:40 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:

Doesnt change the fact the idea is bollocks though. It will achieve literally nothing since every single thing hes bloviating about is already available via the API as Memphis has already pointed out.


This is not true.

For me to know stuff about you i would have to have your api.... wich i dont....

Does anybody see he fallacy that keeps repeating... Yes there is a way to do all of this...already in the game... yes... but you cant do it.

My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.

Tashi Neruu
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-08-01 07:18:06 UTC
all ideas are good ideas. i guess for noobs like me is it really that big of an issue to force on everyone that a few people are able to hide their identity through alts?

i dont know if this fits in but one of the core weaknesses of eve online is the 3 characters per account, the one training per character, because its not an experience based game.

your saying people shold be forced into getting other accounts so they cant hide on one account so have to use two? how many people really do that? isnt there another way to go about this?

maybe instead just show how many accounts a character is associated with and how many players vs accounts are logged in. there are other things ccp can do to improve this games characters structure.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2016-08-01 12:03:28 UTC
Tashi Neruu wrote:
all ideas are good ideas.




Looking at your idea and the OP's, we can see that this is patently not true.

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Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#16 - 2016-08-01 18:25:10 UTC
I wouldnt care about that, but its against CCPs rule of easy intel... thats why we no longer have a watchlist but a buddylist. I would even go so far to delete the Employment List, or make it editable... in reallife i would delete the bad companies i have worked for too...

NONONONONONO TO CAPS IN HIGHSEC NO

Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-08-01 20:15:27 UTC
Already in game, its called contract history.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.