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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#141 - 2016-07-28 07:51:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Dracvlad wrote:
I did some further research on the wreck EHP change which we discussed on a locked thread, it was confirmed to me that Endie did push for it because AG was ganking wrecks.

How convenient. You did some more research that confirmed your opinion to you.

I don't believe I would expect anything different.

No posting of the evidence that shows it of course, but good that you confirmed your opinion to yourself.

Talking about evidence, where's that link to CCP Fozzie that you said you could reference? Still hasn't been produced.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#142 - 2016-07-28 07:52:35 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I did some further research on the wreck EHP change which we discussed on a locked thread, it was confirmed to me that Endie did push for it because AG was ganking wrecks.

How convenient. You did some more research that confirmed your opinion to you.

Genius.

No posting of the evidence that shows it of course, but good that you confirmed it to yourself. As if anything else would be expected.


You came in fast to try to water down what I said, who ae you exactly, Endie perhaps?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#143 - 2016-07-28 07:54:57 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
You came in fast to try to water down what I said, who ae you exactly, Endie perhaps?

If I said yes, then I could be banned for impersonation. If I say no, then what does the truth matter.

Totally impossible that I just happened to get home from work, jump on the lounge and open up the forum. That would be just crazy talk.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2016-07-28 08:00:12 UTC
This is why we can't have nice things .....
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#145 - 2016-07-28 08:01:37 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
You came in fast to try to water down what I said, who ae you exactly, Endie perhaps?

If I said yes, then I could be banned for impersonation. If I say no, then what does the truth matter.

Totally impossible that I just happened to get home from work, jump on the lounge and open up the forum. That would be just crazy talk.


You were very quick to try to divert attention from that in the other thread and try to refute it. No idea who you are, only CCP would know.

So in a nut shell the AG start to do something to affect gankers, the gankers using one of their CSM members pushes for a change that negates the AG strategy. CCP were grossly incompetent and were manipulated by Endie for his own reasons. The man is a disgrace, can't win in space so he gets the rules changed.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2016-07-28 08:05:25 UTC
Do you have proof of these assertions, or is this one of those tinfoil hat things where you're going to tell us to "wake up, sheeple, the sky is falling!".

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#147 - 2016-07-28 08:07:22 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
So in a nut shell the AG start to do something to affect gankers, the gankers using one of their CSM members pushes for a change that negates the AG strategy. CCP were grossly incompetent and were manipulated by Endie for his own reasons. The man is a disgrace, can't win in space so he gets the rules changed.

That's an opinion, not fact. You have provided no evidence that supports this claim and still haven't provided evidence of previous claims you have made.

As long as you express it as an opinion, you are as entitled to that as anyone. But if you go claiming that as fact when there is evidence that shows something different, then you are incorrect, bordering on openly lying.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2016-07-28 08:10:28 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
So in a nut shell the AG start to do something to affect gankers, the gankers using one of their CSM members pushes for a change that negates the AG strategy. CCP were grossly incompetent and were manipulated by Endie for his own reasons. The man is a disgrace, can't win in space so he gets the rules changed.

That's an opinion, not fact. You have provided no evidence that supports this claim and still haven't provided evidence of previous claims you have made.

As long as you express it as an opinion, you are as entitled to that as anyone. But if you go claiming that as fact when there is evidence that shows something different, then you are incorrect, bordering on openly lying.


Not just lying, but slander. This is an extraordinary accusation to make of both the player and CCP, so some extraordinary evidence is going to be required before it's anything more than bullshit.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#149 - 2016-07-28 08:11:41 UTC
Cory Za wrote:


Why not: just have a pop up message that advises the player.

"Cargo Scanned"

This way it keeps with the danger and fun. Players and concord can scan and you never know who.
You have a choice then to get the heart pumping or not.



You can already see when someone is scanning you.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#150 - 2016-07-28 08:26:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Cory Za wrote:


Why not: just have a pop up message that advises the player.

"Cargo Scanned"

This way it keeps with the danger and fun. Players and concord can scan and you never know who.
You have a choice then to get the heart pumping or not.



You can already see when someone is scanning you.



But, but, but....that takes effort. You know, looking at your overview and seeing who is doing what....

That is simply outrageous! I demand CCP give me something for zero effort!

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#151 - 2016-07-28 08:26:46 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Not just lying, but slander. This is an extraordinary accusation to make of both the player and CCP, so some extraordinary evidence is going to be required before it's anything more than bullshit.

I prefer to think of it more as a 'conspiracy loon' than libel.

I don't think Drac means to be libellous, he's just a bit of a nutter.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#152 - 2016-07-28 08:28:42 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Not just lying, but slander. This is an extraordinary accusation to make of both the player and CCP, so some extraordinary evidence is going to be required before it's anything more than bullshit.

I prefer to think of it more as a 'conspiracy loon' than libel.

I don't think Drac means to be libellous, he's just a bit of a nutter.


Now you did it. Now Drac will use his mental powers to tell us all what you are thinking. That you are in fact a transgendered woman and that you live in Cleveland...I'm not sure which is worse.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#153 - 2016-07-28 08:30:25 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:



But, but, but....that takes effort. You know, looking at your overview and seeing who is doing what....

That is simply outrageous! I demand CCP give me something for zero effort!


Come closer and I'll whisper a secret to you.
Galaxy Chicken
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#154 - 2016-07-28 08:36:23 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
You came in fast to try to water down what I said, who ae you exactly, Endie perhaps?

If I said yes, then I could be banned for impersonation. If I say no, then what does the truth matter.

Totally impossible that I just happened to get home from work, jump on the lounge and open up the forum. That would be just crazy talk.


You were very quick to try to divert attention from that in the other thread and try to refute it. No idea who you are, only CCP would know.

So in a nut shell the AG start to do something to affect gankers, the gankers using one of their CSM members pushes for a change that negates the AG strategy. CCP were grossly incompetent and were manipulated by Endie for his own reasons. The man is a disgrace, can't win in space so he gets the rules changed.


Work the illuminati lizard people in there and you may just have a youtube video my friend. :)
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#155 - 2016-07-28 08:37:42 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Not just lying, but slander. This is an extraordinary accusation to make of both the player and CCP, so some extraordinary evidence is going to be required before it's anything more than bullshit.

I prefer to think of it more as a 'conspiracy loon' than libel.

I don't think Drac means to be libellous, he's just a bit of a nutter.


My lawyer says I am totally fine, he just gave me the parameters to work under which I had already worked out.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#156 - 2016-07-28 08:42:16 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
My lawyer says I am totally fine, he just gave me the parameters to work under which I had already worked out.

That you seem to believe that you have a space lawyer at hand to rule on these things is telling. Nutter confirmed.

It's been fun, but we've drifted off topic and into the realm of personal digs, which get boring quite quickly.

So I hope you have your medications at hand, and all the best to your mental health. I'll leave this line of discussion for a while. It's not really very constructive.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#157 - 2016-07-28 08:47:14 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
My lawyer says I am totally fine, he just gave me the parameters to work under which I had already worked out.

That you seem to believe that you have a space lawyer at hand to rule on these things is telling. Nutter confirmed.

It's been fun, but we've drifted off topic and into the realm of personal digs, which get boring quite quickly.

So I hope you have your medications at hand, and all the best to your mental health. I'll leave this line of discussion for a while. It's not really very constructive.


If you say so, but when you start to make suggestions that this could be libellous do note that some people are not exactly poor and do have friends. It was a simple matter of picking up the phone explaining it to a lawyer friend and getting advice. As you gankers often say get a friend, I just did.

And you run away because you realise its not some poor blue collared pleb that you can bully.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#158 - 2016-07-28 08:53:27 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
As you gankers often say get a friend, I just did.

And you run away because you realise its not some poor blue collared pleb that you can bully.

I'm not a ganker and never have been. Never ganked a ship in 8 years and I don't intend to ever start.

Those that want to play that way however, have every bit as much of a right to choose that style of play as I have to choose my style of play and they create additional challenge in the game, which from my perspective is a good thing.

As to you being a blue-collar pleb, there isn't such a thing in my opinion. All professions from the most simple to the most critical is important to how society works and no one deserves to be degraded because of the type of work they do.

I just don't want to continue the off topic discussion as it isn't constructive or on topic. But, if you feel you need believe you had a victory, then I give it to you Drac. You can be validated that you scared me away from the thread. All the best to you.

I'll happy discuss issues on topic, but this is very boring now.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2016-07-28 08:55:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Dracvlad wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
My lawyer says I am totally fine, he just gave me the parameters to work under which I had already worked out.

That you seem to believe that you have a space lawyer at hand to rule on these things is telling. Nutter confirmed.

It's been fun, but we've drifted off topic and into the realm of personal digs, which get boring quite quickly.

So I hope you have your medications at hand, and all the best to your mental health. I'll leave this line of discussion for a while. It's not really very constructive.


If you say so, but when you start to make suggestions that this could be libellous do note that some people are not exactly poor and do have friends. It was a simple matter of picking up the phone explaining it to a lawyer friend and getting advice. As you gankers often say get a friend, I just did.

And you run away because you realise its not some poor blue collared pleb that you can bully.


You seem awfully defensive over a suggestion. I mean, I've had scientologist lawyers (yes, that's a plural) knock on my door at 6am in the morning for something I wrote once about their little cult, and they didn't intimidate me, so if you think you can do better with claims of 'friends' and 'money' over the internet, please feel free to try. On the other hand, "I'm calling my lawyer" isn't a refutation of the claim that you're slandering people. It does, in fact, come across as a sign of guilt.

Also, I'm sorry, but did you just suggest that 'blue collared plebs' (not discriminatory against the poor or working class at all) are easily bullied?

Have you ever tried bullying them?

I suggest you don't.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#160 - 2016-07-28 09:02:30 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
As you gankers often say get a friend, I just did.

And you run away because you realise its not some poor blue collared pleb that you can bully.

I'm not a ganker and never have been. Never ganked a ship in 8 years and I don't intend to ever start.

Those that want to play that way however, have every bit as much of a right to choose that style of play as I have to choose my style of play and they create additional challenge in the game, which from my perspective is a good thing.

As to you being a blue-collar pleb, there isn't such a thing in my opinion. All professions from the most simple to the most critical is important to how society works and no one deserves to be degraded because of the type of work they do.

I just don't want to continue the off topic discussion as it isn't constructive or on topic. But, if you feel you need believe you had a victory, then I give it to you Drac. You can be validated that you scared me away from the thread. All the best to you.

I'll happy discuss issues on topic, but this is very boring now.


You start with personal attacks and digs then run away screaming.

You also try to make out that I am being dismissive to blue collar workers or plebs, not at all, I am pointing out that they are easily bullied but I am not. Again a personal attack to take some sort of moral high ground on your part.

Of course you don't want to continue this.

Ganking is fine, however the balance is wrong, it also does not help when people who oppose it suddenly find their most effective strategy in game removed by people using their representative position at the CSM to influence CCP to make a change that directly benefits them in game. It is quite understood be me that the change to wreck EHP is actually a good one, but the motives behind that change were based on reacting to a strategy carried out by the AG.

You can slice it or dice it by attacking me, or making pathetic veild threats of legal action on behalf of what exactly, but at the end of the day someone got the game rules changed to negate a strategy that his enemies were using in game. CCP were incompetent and fell for it and then buffed the EHP of freighters with the DCU II to try to balance off against it which gankers keep screaming is a masive nerf.

Well let me put it so you gankers understand it, I would prefer to still have the wrecks easy to blow up rather than the EHP buff from the DCU II. That is simple, so when you people talk about nerfs I will ram this down your throats every which way I can.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp