EVE New Citizens Q&A

Yes it is worth it, fine it takes longer but coming out with an extra 10 mil or more in loot always helps.

Some of the loot you can always use as cheap fittings as well. Some are used to make rigs for even more isk if you ever try Industry.

Yes i am happy grinding ISK. I pvp all the time and constantly need isk so i dont mind grinding for hours to make alot of isk. I am looking into doing incursions right now. Thanks

I tend to agree with this.

In my opinion exploration will net you more ISK in the short run compared to running missions.

As for salvaging, I find it best to salvage medium / large wrecks and bypass the small wrecks, that will basically get you the majority of salvage and allow you to move on to the next site / mission much quicker.



DMC

There is often an aspect overlooked when it comes to generate ISK : the regularity.

Exploration is maybe more able to generate ISK than level 4 missions, but luck plays a big part, and as every wandering activities, you have more chances to lose your ship or even get podded. You must take that into account too.
Not to mention the competition with the other players.

When you mission (or mine or any sedentary activity), if you find a quiet place, if you learn who's who around, if you watch your local, have some safe spots, you are less likely to lose your ship, you have no competition (at least for the missions), you will never run out of missions and luck is not an essential factor.

Then comes the question of fun, that's another story and it's different for everyone. If i had to run missions or mining as my "job", i'd try to find some friends to fleet with regularly.

Every rule has it's exceptions but as a rule speed running missions is where the best isk / hours is for level 4 missions. Especially if you are set up to run burners. LP is where the isk is at and you only get LP when you complete the mission so you are looking to cycle through missions as quickly as possible.

I was running level 4's back when burners first came out to see what they were all about. I ran them with an agent who I had very very high standings with and got offered burners all the time. I sometimes would get as many as 3 or 4 of them offered in a row. With Security Connections at 5 I was routinely getting offered over 10K LP for burners and iirc some were over 12K.

That being said when I run level 4 missions I loot and salvage typically. Not because it's the most profitable but because building stuff from melted mission / anom loot is what I enjoy doing.

I have not had a steady diet of level 4 missions in years. Now-a-day I usually run anoms for isk. However it's the same thing with anoms. I could make more isk just burning through the anoms for max bounty payouts but instead I fully loot and salvage all of my anoms, again because building stuff from melted anom loot is what I enjoy doing. In various was the amount of minerals that I can get from melting anom / mission loot has been nerfed many many times over the years and several nerfs ago it was obviously not profitable to loot and salvage but I continue to do it.

I would recommend doing it for max fun. For you max fun might be max isk / hour and if that is the case great. However focus on the enjoyment.

One more comment about the MTUs. For me in null sec space dropping MTUs in friendly null sec and coming back to pick up the loot might be worth it from an isk / hour standpoint but salvage definitely is not. For you in high sec mission space the MTU makes you much easier to scan down in your mission pocket. It will lead to greatly increased uninvited guests in your mission space.

If you are missioning in one of the very busy high sec SOE systems then the lost MTUs ( as they can be shot in high sec without concord intervention ) and added risk from suspect baiting will most certainly make it more risk than reward to drop MTUs. However if you are missioning in a far off pocket with very few people in local then it might be worth it. You will have to make the call. However my guess is that even in that situation you'll be better off cycling through the missions faster.

Also keep in mind that skills will figure into this a bit. The more skills that you have that either increase mission rewards or decrease the time frame that it takes you to run them, the greater the difference since There are very few skills to increase the rate at which you loot and salvage and no skills that increase the amount of loot or salvage that you get.

Every 3 months you can do the epic arcs. Only the sisters of eve arc is beginner level, the others are about lvl 4.4 type missions. Check out evesurvival.org for where to start them. Decent - and a few good - bounties on the enemies and at the end you get an item worth about 100 mil or so.

There are salvaging corps that will gather the loot and salvage from missions for you. They sell it all once per month or so and split it with you. You make mostly-passive isk and don't have to bother with it all. Pro Synergy is the only name of such a group that comes to mind at the moment. Actually, being one of those salvagers might be an ok way for a newer player to make a few isk.

If you want to get into incursions train up to fly logistics ships (armour or shield repair ships). They love them and you'll be able to get into incursion fleets faster.

Check out "the plan" in the signature of DeMichael Crimson in this thread for some further pve ideas.

if you're looking to maximise $/hr
no

if you don't care about $/hr
go right ahead and loot/salvage everything

The OP should be aware that a standard MTU is easily tracked down and used to provide a warp in on them by mission invaders and the occasional ganker.

Hmm if your main reason is gathering ISK and LP I really would not recommend running missions or any other HS activity, unless you find missionrunning/mining really fun. Instead I'd suggest FW or WH-exploration, it's probably a better source of income and if not, atleast it's way more fun (imo). Also as some other people have mentioned, your MTU is easily scanned down and belive me, there will be more d-bags looting your MTU than you will, so I'd give up on that thought right away. Also, if you are that kind of a guy, you might wanna look into ganking transportships in HS, completely riskfree and might be a really really good source of income. Just comes down to simple math, count how much ISK they need to be carrying for it to be worth you loosing your ship. I suppose after a while you also know exactly what you can and cannot kill so you really should have 100% successrate on that. Personally I enjoyed FW and wh-exploration, I prefer fighting ppl who can shoot back, gets kind of boring otherwise. Or try em all and see what you prefer. :)

Looting is worthwhile, but salvaging is not.

Having an alt following a gate behind in an Industrial carrying multiple MTU is handy. Drop a MTU, bookmark it, and move on to the next room. When the mission is complete, warp back and collect the MTUs.

I've never had a problem with gankers nor ninjas in all my 7+ years.