Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Proposal of Ship Scanning as Hostile Act in any solar system, pass the Resolution

Cargo Scanners / Ship Scanners use as Hostile Act.

He means like if you peek up a lady's skirt, she'll get kinda hostile...usually.
I think grabbing a peek under a kilt is a lethal act. However, I know nothing of any of this personally.

Yup.
Peek up skirt is legit.
Thumb up the butt gets the whistle and truncheon.

Until you see that ship is carrying some precious cargo and then it's an expanding ball of particles.

It's being proposed as a method to engage Concord faster than normal, or in essence stop ganking behavior.

I vote no because if you are going to try to do something that has an effect on a given play style, you need to propose such an effect in the clear and not obfuscate it behind some mechanics change.

You say, "I think we need to do away with suicide ganking" and be done with it, let the chips fall where they may.

I, speaking only for myself, think it's fine as is since it's easily countered.

So basically every custom agent who works for the NPC corps and are checking for contraban such as exotic dancers in say a 1.0 minmirar system would be criminslly flagged? That seems like a bad idea. It's technically not just players who scan.

As for the notion of players.... Ok... So I create an alt that flies an ibis with a cargo scanner. By hostile act you mean one of two things... A concordable action or a criminal flag.

In the case of concordable, you've just created the easiest method of pulling concord from a gate, allowing gankers more time to kill frieghters. Through an attempt at changed a mechanic you dislike and a lack of understanding of the game mechanics, you've made it easier to gank targets. Congrats... I think. You've just buffed ganking.

If you mean criminal flag.... Oooo... People can kill am ibis scanning you. You'll still be scanned and ganked. So you've changed nothing.

In the mean time, you've made my life exceedingly difficult
We don't like neutral boosters in RvB. People use them despite the prohibition against it. The easiest way to start investigating this is to scan that odd neutral command ship/T3 cruiser. If they are running links that boost multiple types of tank or one that boosts warp disruption modules, chances are it is a neutral boost causing problems and has to be dealt with. If it just has shield boosts, it's more likely somone's mission alt trying to squeeze every last isk per second in. But no... Because you dislike a useful tool, my job becomes harder. Thanks.

Or say I am an explorer. Did you know cargo scanners let you are what's in a relic of data site can before hacking it? A quick scan saves me from wasting time on a can that is worthless. But nope, I lose that too because you don't like the mechanics of the game.

Just because you don't like done uses for a tool doesn't mean it should be banned. Real world anology... I can kill someone with a baseball bat, a hammer, a tire iron, golf club, length of rope, and a ton of other stuff... Let's make them illegal! Oh wait... They all have valid useful functions. In eve a cargo or ship scanner is no different.

This makes my brain hurt... or are you actually suggesting that NPCs follow all the same rules and CONCORD is just taking a day off when a rat starts shooting at you in a belt?



We have a second mode called suspect.



CONCORD are being pulled off anyway... all that same IBIS has to do is blast anyone with a civilian gatling gun, and if they're going to drag CONCORD off they're going to already have that prepared.

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Anyway, almost your entire post was nonsense I'm afraid so I'm just going to stop doing it line-by-line.

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Also, ISD will be along in a few to move you to:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

Remove cargo scanners from the game.

Change all cargo holds to be made of glass, so that you can just see wtf everyone is carrying.

Or put it in the show info of the ship.

Oh no, this is already becoming ganker/antiganker battle too.



HELP! ISD, CLOSE ALL TEH FORUMS, its an outbreak!

Curiosity, same with the ship scanner.

THEY KNOW! SHUT IT DOWN!