Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I like the idea but the problem is that Eve does not really have line of site. It wouldn't change anything really.

The other question I have is how does the movement work? Do all ships submit to formation control until they break it?

One use I think which would really make it good though would be Stealth bombers, would look awesome.

I realize that EVE doesn't have line of site but that's one of the things i'm suggesting should change.

Exactly, the commander calls for formation and all the members that is a part of the pattern chosen by the commander will move into formation until fleet commander disband the formation or if a fleet members simply changes course.

Yes imagine 10 stealth bombers moving in formation against a fleet, how awesome would that be?!




I agree Zim but if you have a determined pattern for the formation that would make it exactly as the commander wanted it to be, it could have a practical use! Such as using stronger ships to cover the weaker ones!

I like the idea of formations a lot, but again this is only applicable when EVE evolves beyond point and click combat mechanics, with the amount of lobbying going on it doesn't look like this will happen any time soon sadly.

I agree that this idea might not be possible due to the extra ammount of traffic that would be generated and may overwhelm the server. However, I believe this would be easily implemented into the game and worth a try on the test servers atleast :)

I do not agree. I believe that CCP might find a way to make this work without eating too much CPU. They should give this idea a few hours of thinking atleast, I think it's worth it.

Yes I have but not for EVE. Have you?

Agreed, "EVE" and "Client-side" can't even be used in the same sentence hehe. But still I believe this could be done!

I don't know the first thing about LOS calculations compared to you apparently but there might be a simple solution to this CPU eating problem that we haven't thought of.. Something similar to the Battle recorder idea? Putting ship directions and speed into a single file etc etc... But hey, what do I know? Just saying, the solution might be easier than you think :)

Yes! And we also need star wars styled side by side fighting!

Too bad eve is too realistic for fighting with less than 100m between ships ;_;

They have "position this tick" along with "direction" and "speed" in memory already, it's what they use to do the calculatins for where you'll be on the next tick. This still doesn't solve the problem of figuring out whether or not the direction one gun is firing will actually hit the intended target, or someone that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Same goes for missiles, and they have to be calculated at each tick to see if they have hit something in between tick X and tick X+1, which means you're going to spend a fair bit of CPU just calculating them as well.

We've seen quite decisively how much CPU missiles use back when fighterbombers used missiles, add a lot of calculations to them (and to guns), and ... well, yes. I hope you like time dilation.

Of course you would have to use a start coordinate and a vector for the weapons, you still have to check along the whole route whether or not there's something in the way, and with missiles you'd have to either simulate the movement of the other ships as well during that second, or just say **** it and check for ships from the start coordinate to the end coordinate (which is calculated given start coordinate, vector, speed and time (1 second)).

And uh, "2 or more members"? How'll that "limit CPU usage", given that what I'm thinking of is fights of 500+ in a system? And uh, "ships not in formation but only in the same fleet won't be using it either"? Huh? Either LOS is enabled for everyone, and thus would further encourage formation flying, or it isn't enabled, and there's still an ecouragement of keeping f.ex logis 70km or so off the main fleet, in the opposite direction of the enemy fleet to be able to rep more efficiently without having to worry too much about getting shot at themselves, or keeping the entire fleet within 50km of their triage carriers (I'm not entirely sure about the distances, I don't do logistics) so there's actually reps to be had.