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CCP, why do you allow Hi-Sec to be a haven for gankers

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#181 - 2016-07-25 21:13:57 UTC
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#182 - 2016-07-25 21:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#183 - 2016-07-25 21:19:14 UTC
I like where this thread is heading.

Agent of the New Order

Live by the Code - die by the Code.

The Voice of Highsec
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#184 - 2016-07-25 21:30:18 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Why gankers should not accept consequences of their actions. I mean CONSEQUENCES.
I would be better CONCORD Leader than all of them.
What have you done for High sec for now? Nothing.


What have YOU done for Highsec? According to ZKill, ... Nothing.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#185 - 2016-07-25 21:33:10 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Why gankers should not accept consequences of their actions. I mean CONSEQUENCES.
I would be better CONCORD Leader than all of them.
What have you done for High sec for now? Nothing.


What have YOU done for Highsec? According to ZKill, ... Nothing.

Check Bagrat Skalski, nana is just a toy

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#186 - 2016-07-25 21:36:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#187 - 2016-07-25 21:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
I love this thread. I love this game. So much commitment from players on both side of the debate. Not many games out there that can have such opposite groups so passionate about it.

Suggests to me, the current balance is about right.

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#188 - 2016-07-25 21:45:22 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:

And you do not see everything, even when you think you see nothing. Lol


I could tell you what I think I'm seeing, but then you'd mistake me for "one of them".
All I'm saying is ... if you think you can do a better job in this player driven game, by all means start up a service to scout/escort industrials complete with logi, scouts, webber and ECM.

Run the math, see what you can charge people for this service, bang pots and pans to get some customers, build up a solid reputation -- then I will take this for anything but idle banter.
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#189 - 2016-07-25 21:49:06 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:

And you do not see everything, even when you think you see nothing. Lol


I could tell you what I think I'm seeing, but then you'd mistake me for "one of them".
All I'm saying is ... if you think you can do a better job in this player driven game, by all means start up a service to scout/escort industrials complete with logi, scouts, webber and ECM.

Run the math, see what you can charge people for this service, bang pots and pans to get some customers, build up a solid reputation -- then I will take this for anything but idle banter.


And finally, when you happen to give webs to a 50 billion freighter, WRECK THE EVERLASTING **** OUT OF HIM!

Just make sure you have you own freighter alt close at hand to scoop the loot.

Agent of the New Order

Live by the Code - die by the Code.

The Voice of Highsec
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#190 - 2016-07-25 22:06:00 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:

And you do not see everything, even when you think you see nothing. Lol


I could tell you what I think I'm seeing, but then you'd mistake me for "one of them".
All I'm saying is ... if you think you can do a better job in this player driven game, by all means start up a service to scout/escort industrials complete with logi, scouts, webber and ECM.

Run the math, see what you can charge people for this service, bang pots and pans to get some customers, build up a solid reputation -- then I will take this for anything but idle banter.


That is not my way of playing this game. I have my own ways. Appealing to me.

You can all ignore what I do, what I say. Cant ignore it? Maybe you should. Will be easier to understand when time will come.
Its not that its something important.
Its nothing.

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#191 - 2016-07-25 22:07:03 UTC
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Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#192 - 2016-07-25 22:15:20 UTC
If the complaining bears in this thread were as passionate about learning game mechanics, fitting their ships properly, and preventing ganks/defending themselves in game as they are about "CCPLEASE PROTECT ME!" they would be so invincible, so untouchable, so powerful....

...That pvpers would just melt before them...

...but easier to just complain cause we can do that while mining on six accounts.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#193 - 2016-07-25 22:19:52 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:

And you do not see everything, even when you think you see nothing. Lol


I could tell you what I think I'm seeing, but then you'd mistake me for "one of them".
All I'm saying is ... if you think you can do a better job in this player driven game, by all means start up a service to scout/escort industrials complete with logi, scouts, webber and ECM.

Run the math, see what you can charge people for this service, bang pots and pans to get some customers, build up a solid reputation -- then I will take this for anything but idle banter.


Pearls before a swine Brokk. Your suggestion borders on emergent game play. Heck it is emergent game play. And everyone knows Nana Skalski is not here for emergent game play.

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Jasmine Deer
Perkone
Caldari State
#194 - 2016-07-25 22:22:35 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
This is a great thread! It has everything! 8 pages of pure entertainment!



It doesn't have everything.

Man, I miss Veers.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#195 - 2016-07-25 22:34:00 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:

And you do not see everything, even when you think you see nothing. Lol


I could tell you what I think I'm seeing, but then you'd mistake me for "one of them".
All I'm saying is ... if you think you can do a better job in this player driven game, by all means start up a service to scout/escort industrials complete with logi, scouts, webber and ECM.

Run the math, see what you can charge people for this service, bang pots and pans to get some customers, build up a solid reputation -- then I will take this for anything but idle banter.


Pearls before a swine Brokk. Your suggestion borders on emergent game play. Heck it is emergent game play. And everyone knows Nana Skalski is not here for emergent game play.

I dont need emergent gameplay, I dont need gameplay at all. I leave it all to you. I will watch how you all perform, CODE especially.

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#196 - 2016-07-25 22:47:43 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
I love this thread. I love this game. So much commitment from players on both side of the debate. Not many games out there that can have such opposite groups so passionate about it.

Suggests to me, the current balance is about right.


All the more reason they're going to give it another nerf.

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#197 - 2016-07-25 22:58:48 UTC
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
If the complaining bears in this thread were as passionate about learning game mechanics, fitting their ships properly, and preventing ganks/defending themselves in game as they are about "CCPLEASE PROTECT ME!" they would be so invincible, so untouchable, so powerful....

...That pvpers would just melt before them...

...but easier to just complain cause we can do that while mining on six accounts.


That's not how this works and you know it. If they did that, CODE would go around claiming victory while they wrung their hands wondering what to do with their lives because the carebears got smart. Most creator sorts don't have the chops for ship to ship PvP and the poachers know it.

The way this works for HiSec Carebears if they really want to solve the issue is they get together, put up some bait ships and then pound the snot out of any would-be gankers. You turn the game around on them and make the poachers into the hunted. Then we get to really see what 'stuff' the gankers are made out of. We know what they claim HiSec haulers and miners are made out of, I'd like to see this put back in their court.

Heck, it might be interesting for a Merc corp to offer up a subscription service to Corps to help with this "hunting service". I know several corps that would rather pay a hunter than pay a racketeer.

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CCP Falcon
#198 - 2016-07-25 22:59:51 UTC
Skettis Arthie wrote:

If I'm in the mood, I could easily buy 100 catalysts and ship them to systems surrounding rookie systems and just pop the new players like flyes and still be in order with EULA and station services. That would cost me just around 200M isk which is ... very affordable to do it daily without any issues.


In this instance you'd more than likely still be considered as griefing new players, and you'd still be liable to losing your accounts.

Honestly, it's not rocket science to protect your assets and not fly with all your eggs in one basket.

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CCP Falcon
#199 - 2016-07-25 23:04:27 UTC
And on that note, this thread is being closed.

There are of course valid points on both sides of the argument, but when people are behaving like tools, are trolling and are bringing real life politics into the discussion, then the discussion is over and done with.

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