Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I do not agree with OP as a side note: you cannot rep citadels and they have drones so why do you need a carrier?

Not Dryson but I will take the bait just so the information is here for all too see.

Assuming that the carrier fit has a thermal or kinetic resist hole and using a reasonably achievable 1450 DPS Rattlesnake fit we get these.

1,380 ships firing together to alpha.
14 ships just to break through the tank plus however many more you want to deal with whatever structure or armor may be left.

So based on this just say no to caps in high sec.

From a design perspective, just shutting the door to more player agency possibilities (the ability for players to do stuff) is never a good thing. However, EVE is a complex system with complex balancing. Introducing capitals in highsec would be a tremendous change for some of these balances, so the question must be: how can Capital ships be introduced to highsec so that the imbalance they bring would be a resource for player entertainment more than an hindrance?

To all those that asked "how would you brake a capital fleet in high sec?" I simply ask: wouldn't another capital fleet do the trick? If capital ships are allowed in highsec they should be allowed both for offence that for defence.



+1 to this

So, let's ask this: what would capitals in highsec change for the overall playerbase? Of course, if unrestricted, big wealthy alliances could build more easily such ships, and then have fun wardecing each other, or the smaller highsec corporations. This is a potentially disastrous outcome, as it would effectively turn highsec in a somewhat similar thing than 0.0, where big alliances would de-facto "rule" certain areas. This is unacceptable from both a player perspective (having a small corporation out of that big alliance system would be incredibly difficult if not impossible) than a lore perspective (the Empires would never allow other entities to effectively rule their space, even if this might be a non-issue as capsuleers in the game only interact with each other).
So, what kind of restrictions might be applied to mitigate these effects?
For example, capitals might be only deployed nearby Citadels, and be allowed to warp to Citadels (maybe only Forzitars) or Stargates. In this way, Capital use in highsec would only be related to attack or defence of Citadels, so that capitals may not be used to farm missions, to protect or attack mininers, to camp gates etc. This would also mean that every entity that would be affected by capitals in highsec has the wealth and resources to build or buy a Citadel, so might have smaller issues to use capitals for defend it than average highsec people that just run small corporations or do PVE.
This system might be achieved by giving a timer to capitals that jump through gates, for example, preventing them to stay nearby the gate for much more than the time to align and warp to the next gate/target citadel. If they linger too long... (hold your breadth....) ... Empire Capitals or CONCORD Capitals may appear so that capital ships can be CONCORDED (anyone that wants to see CONCORD capitals: thumbs up). Or maybe cyno fields may be activated nearby Citadels, allowing capitals to appear on the scene.
Even Titans could pass by... but then if a Titan lingers on a stargate for too long, AN EMPIRE IAPETAN TITAN APPEARS AND ONE-SHOTS IT (geez, I really want to see a Iapetan titan).

Allowing capitals in highsec shouldn't be a taboo, but it would mean that all EVE play could scale up a notch. But this has happened before: once upon a time Battleships were very rare.

I giggle at the prospect of tricking a titan into CONCORDokken.

/amused Gadget

Since the original excuse for allowing them in HS is to transfer them to the other side of Null quicker, just make all cap modules blocked. That means you still keep an insane buffer, but no cap weapons, reps, or siege modules. This would make them pretty useless in HS other than to move.

That someday was years ago. Then CCP took them out of HS.
Chribba has one of the very few allowed to stay.

--Gadget

it is way past the time capitals where allowed in high sec in my opinion. if I want to mine in a dread or do lvl 4s in a carrier or rep my friends in a fax, why not. there are better ships suited to these activities but why not let pilot fly what they like where they like..dont forget concord can insta pop any ship as they set your shields etc to zero no dps damage so you cant tank cxoncord so yep let them in. if you want to limit them thie the sec status of the system to the pilots alliance standing such that say for example to have a capital in a 0.9 sec system in amarr region you would need at least 9sec statsus with amarr, want to go to jita in a fax no problem +10 standing with caldari. some1 will say well yes this will create a standings grind, well so what. just my 2 cernts worth

Can I touch your Veldnaught before you blow it up?

You know...reasons.