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Do you trust your clones in a player owned Citadel?
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Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-07-23 18:35:26 UTC
Specifically looking at people who have 1B ISK clones (implants), but anyone with a clone: do you leave them in player owned citadels? Do like the idea of doing that?

Do you like the changes to the NPC jump clone facilities where you have to drop 900,000.00 isk for every jump.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#2 - 2016-07-23 18:39:26 UTC
I don't leave anything in citadels that I can't get back with asset safety tbh.
Memphis Baas
#3 - 2016-07-23 19:18:20 UTC
Possible answers are:

1. Yes, I trust.
1a. It's my citadel anyway.

2. I can afford to lose 1B, many times over.

3. No, I don't trust, and thus I'm never leaving my clones there.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-07-23 19:33:06 UTC
Depends,
atrahouse : No, i dont trust it to not explode
Fortizar : Maby, unlikly to explode in highsec but i dont trust the owner to keep the clonebay online so no.

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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#5 - 2016-07-23 19:38:01 UTC
Nope, don't trust my clones, sneaky b'stards, Always talking behind my back! Lol
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2016-07-23 19:39:06 UTC
000Hunter000 wrote:
Nope, don't trust my clones, sneaky b'stards, Always talking behind my back! Lol



And you never know where they've been, so always use tongs.



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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#7 - 2016-07-24 07:48:06 UTC
Not only "no" but "hell no".
Drammie Askold
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#8 - 2016-07-24 10:23:42 UTC
Depends on who owns the citadel

As the blessed St. Reptilicus said "Some days you can't get a drink on the cuff anyplace."
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#9 - 2016-07-24 14:10:29 UTC
I don't trust my clones anywhere. I caught one trying to put the moves on my girl....
...claimed to be me....she was not amused.

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Jinn McKellin
BobVult
#10 - 2016-07-24 14:23:08 UTC
To be honest.....I've not even docked up in a citadel yet.

I sure ain't leaving anything I own in someone citadel.

Hell to be honest I don't think I'd leave anything of mine in a Corp citadel I belonged to.
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-07-24 17:34:48 UTC
Yeah, I want to chalk up this change as 'huge unnecessary nerf bat wack'. Reprocessing changes for citadel were ok, but I don't want to fork out 900,000 isk per clone jump just so they can artificially make citadel clone bays seem better. Some people don't mind the fee and are like "hey, nerf, oh well", well I'm not one of them.

Honestly, I think they're kinda crazy expecting us to leave 1B isk clones all over in these citadels that can be completely destroyed. It's basically what they're saying with this 900,000 isk fee.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#12 - 2016-07-24 19:37:44 UTC
Unless you in a wh, you will have 7 days yo evac your clone from first timer. But if it does go boom, its easy enough to replace..
Whats that thing the vets go on and on and on about.. err Don't fly want you can't afford to lose.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-07-24 20:28:01 UTC
My clones are extremely attractive and this Galaxy is full of sickos.

I don't trust them with anyone.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-07-24 22:05:42 UTC
Im more concerned as to why they cut a perfectly good left arm off of my fresh new clone and put a mechanical arm on it before I jumped into it. Dont get me started about the eye. The tats I can underatand.

But yes this is f-ing rediculouse and didnt realize they changed this. If you want us to use something new, make it worth using or better so we have a reason to use it. Sand box remember? The f-ing thins the devs do some time. Why the heck would you punish us for using what we already do?
John Volan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-07-24 23:35:57 UTC  |  Edited by: John Volan
I definitely wouldn't do it unless it was really convenient. In highsec and lowsec I can't see the point since practically anywhere you might as well do it in the completely secure npc station next door.

And when your clone costs over a 1B, 900k to protect it is certainly worth it and not much of a factor in comparison to the investment in the clone itself.
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-07-25 02:36:14 UTC
John Volan wrote:
....

And when your clone costs over a 1B, 900k to protect it is certainly worth it and not much of a factor in comparison to the investment in the clone itself.



Eh, that's not the point. The free clone jump system was fine the way it was, the nerf was pointless. The 'nerf' being this fee out of nowhere for no reason. The devs are thinking "lets nerf (this) to force (this) direction", when they should be thinking "lets buff (this new) improved system to attract people away from (this old) game mechanic". You know like: citadel-to-citadel clone jump only gives a 1 hour CD to clone jump, NPC station clone jump remains the same. Not: lets put an ISK sink in here for no reason to force them to use our citadel clone bay services. Regressive game development. No vision at all.
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-07-25 12:34:45 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
Specifically looking at people who have 1B ISK clones (implants), but anyone with a clone: do you leave them in player owned citadels? Do like the idea of doing that?

Do you like the changes to the NPC jump clone facilities where you have to drop 900,000.00 isk for every jump.


Yes, I leave my expensive clones on my combat in my corps main citadel in low. We have had it from a week after the introduction of citadels, and have so far been able to protect it (plus the three other staging citadels we have) with our small alliance. now with the hype of killing the citadels gone, they are pretty safe.

Being able to freely change my implants as often i want is a good thing for me and my alliance, hence they pay the citadel. Roam in one ship, and pick the clone that complement the ship and fleet composition the best without paying is really nice.

Like someone said you have a week to evac them, so I don't see the downside at all

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker