EVE General Discussion

You have a point. CCP should update the EULA to make the renting of space a bannable offense. Then maybe money (isk) minded people might give 2 craps about moving to null and join a corp that actually owns space.

Or CCP could finish WIS and let people buy emotes with aurum giving all the vets the middle finger but bringing in a lot of new players.

I say we're screwed no matter what lol.

Bu we're fine in the mean time.

Apparently there are still TOO MANY players in EvE.

Every time I want to go exploring or looking for some cheap ore in an "out of the way" system... there's always someone there to spoil my fun.

Where are these "empty" systems?

--Curious Gadget

IMO HiSec is too safe, huge and profitable for most to even bother with LowSec/Null. Characters can PLEX their accounts easily and never leave the comfort of HiSec.

What I’d like to see…

• A real bounty system that works.
• Nerf/Remove Concord and make policing a player job.
• Have HiSec “authorities” fight to keep HiSec with 0.5-0.7 systems being able to be captured/lost to LowSec status.
• Have the faction war actually matter and maybe some type of conscription system.

Essentially make the big safe pool smaller and more dangerous but give more tools/incentives to protect that pool. Players will fine less ISK to harvest in the safety of HiSec and have to go into LowSec to earn.

Force them into LowSec to show that it's really not that bad...and that excitement/danger is a good thing

If nullbears are there and dont care, and the rest of high sec whines, CCP will do what I proposed.

If now the risk for common highsec bear is abhorrent, and they dont want to be ganked, and they are not ganked as often as they would fear, and its like they dont even care about ganks if they do it in low populated systems and tech 2 fitted ships, and occasional gank is only pissing them off and they dont want to play any longer, same as with wardecs, CCP will do what I proposed.

It will be done to make more players stay. More is not a guy who will HTFU because he likes some aspects of the game he pays for, but the one who will leave if he dont like some aspects of the game he pays for. This game has presumably those HTFU guys olready, so they will stay, and more of those who try and will not whine because there will be nothing to annoy them, will stay. Numbers will rise.

There's no risk to insult millions of players here....

Considering that most veterans use 2/3/4 or more accounts, it's more some thousand of players if you are lucky....


should be a giant warning bell for any game developer honestly.

Yes, and it's very strange devs don't realize:

- Long term veterans would accept changes, even to their sick hisec/wardec ideas, they invested too much time and money on this game to quit, they will not quit...( prove is they accept to be enslaved by total grind events even if they keep saying it's a sandbox...we are free...yes even in wow you are free to stay in the world doing your things...none forces you to grind...

- New players and persons who try the game are, on the contrary easily disgusted by harassing/ganking and so on, in particular if they don't know games mechanics in detail, so they will leave and tell anyone asking them about this game that it's a horrible game collecting all the horrible gankers that have no other place left where they can pour out their rage on others...

Please read the commentaries under the video first.

If you would listen carefully, you would know its half assed attempt to know what actually is going on, because:

Its only for 15 day old timespan. And they not bothered to ask about why they tried the game in the first place, what they imagined before playing. So this alone could have affected the results in greater perspective. Like how much players were bored by what, were annoyed by what.

1 % people have been ganked for first 15 days. Clearly a trial timespan.
How much game you can explore in that timespan, what can you acquire being completely new, and who the hell ganks 15 day old noobs? If they would care to watch players play more, like for a month or two, different timespans...

Those who have been killed played longer, that may have been because of one reason, they have seeked vengeance, stayed to learn how to gank others, because its so easy and can cause mischef. This one percent is affected by mischief. Will affect the rest that plays the game in negative way as we could have seen. Also its only result from one percent, so they could be borderline inexact in relation to the majority.

No wonder that "I have lost ship, or I have been harassed" in resignation is so low. It could be a shame to write in resignation, "I resigned because I have imagined myself as a warrior and was blown up in one shot, I feel violated", this pool may have been affected by emotions.

These are no trolls.
If you would bother reading also mine commentary for it, you would know they speak from experience. Badly researched data leads to wrong conclusion. They did let you know on video how they tried to research data, well, maybe they should have asked at university first how to make that kind of research.

Post above gives a glimpse of how EVE is played, its not by 15 day old player.

So if they really want to have good research, they would really need to go and explore the playerbase. But pols are so much annoying to do, most players would probably mine a whole belt while listening to Nightwish than do an exhausive pool.

Yes, All of them are my alts, I am making those threads myself, all of them.