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Clean Up The Dead Corps!

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Inevitability
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2016-01-07 06:11:49 UTC
CSM, please petition CCP to clean up all of the dead corps and recycle the names/tickers. So many dead corps out there of people who are never coming back to this game that are just being used.

That... or extend corp tickers to 6-7 characters.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-01-07 21:37:19 UTC
What if the dormant CEO wants to come back and reclaim his corp?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Inevitability
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2016-01-08 06:59:41 UTC
If they haven't logged in since 2003-2005... chances are they aren't coming back. Sorry about your luck... but we have subscribing folks that want to have good corp names too.
Raleit
E.C.H.O.
Warped Intentions
#4 - 2016-01-08 22:15:14 UTC
6-7 Chars might be a good option.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#5 - 2016-01-16 11:38:28 UTC
Inevitability wrote:
If they haven't logged in since 2003-2005... chances are they aren't coming back. Sorry about your luck... but we have subscribing folks that want to have good corp names too.



Sorry to you, pal. The corp that the CEO created back in 200-whenever is still the property of that CEO, now and forever, until the end of time and/or until when CCP says differently - not some bitter Johnny-come-lately who just wants a 'cool' name to use.


Perhaps these new subscribers should be a little bit more imaginative themselves, rather than attempting to ride the coattails of those who have come before.

Ridiculous idea, not supported in the least (and your attitude certainly doesn't help), and I'd crumple this idea up, throw it in a wastepaper bin, douse it with lighter fluid and start a conflagration with Conflagration if I could.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Iain Cariaba
#6 - 2016-01-17 10:48:13 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Ridiculous idea, not supported in the least (and your attitude certainly doesn't help), and I'd crumple this idea up, throw it in a wastepaper bin, douse it with lighter fluid and start a conflagration with Conflagration if I could.

Nah, hit it with anti-matter. A conflagration would leave ashes, but anti-matter would obliterate it.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#7 - 2016-03-23 18:18:17 UTC
Raleit wrote:
6-7 Chars might be a good option.


I can see more obscene corp names and tickers coming with this.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-03-23 19:44:05 UTC
Yeah, no. This actually came up when they did the trial character name purge a while back. I asked about the corps and alliances long since dead and was told that said names were now a part of the history and not up for recycling. If it was paid for then it stays, basically.

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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#9 - 2016-04-04 01:08:13 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Yeah, no. This actually came up when they did the trial character name purge a while back. I asked about the corps and alliances long since dead and was told that said names were now a part of the history and not up for recycling. If it was paid for then it stays, basically.

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How about players being able to make the same name as another corporation/alliance/character while keeping the old ones?
Give a delay of say 10 years or so before someone else can copy a name?
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#10 - 2016-04-04 07:50:10 UTC
I also don't see why people can't be more imaginative when making corporations/alliances.

The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.

Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
#11 - 2016-04-09 00:13:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyranis Marcus
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Do not run. We are your friends.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2016-04-09 06:49:35 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
What if the dormant CEO wants to come back and reclaim his corp?


Then he has to think up a new name.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2016-04-09 07:09:21 UTC
Sylphy wrote:
I also don't see why people can't be more imaginative when making corporations/alliances.


You think "po1ice" is imaginative?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

L'gonic D'gingar
The Generic Conglomerates
#14 - 2016-04-11 01:03:35 UTC
Stock shares

Maybe we can utilize the unused stock option tool in corporation management. If Eve charged 1 million isk a year for a Corporation charter license, the fee can improve EVE in the following way. Failure to pay the one million isk payment for the previous year mandates Concord to issue shares on the corporation behalf to pay their bill! (Note active corporations could be exempt from this fee or action! But I just cannot see 1 million isk bill being a deal breaker for any corporation except for dead corporations!) Suddenly the dead corps assets and name becomes a hot commodity.

Every 30 days just like tax auctions in real life on properties on delinquent EVE corporation accounts. Those dead corporations must pay their past due taxes! To generate isk, new shares issued would start at 1000 isk per share. Hence if a 1000 shares sold on the open market via Concord at 1000 isk (Minimum) each. The million ISK tax collection bill would satisfied the dead corporation tax bill for the last year! The current CEO would be credited a minimum of 1000000 isk when or if he/she ever returned. (Chicken feed ISK to be honest.) Now let's say the dead corporation has 3 dead sticks up and unknown ship hanger items. Ah, now we will have interest in these dead corps. Dare I say a bidding war could happen? Frankly if and when the absentee CEO returns he/she will find their coffers stuffed with ISK!

Prospective bids for the new issued stocks bids would be sealed for each of the 1000 shares in question. The seven day process would reveal the potential bidders only. The amount of the bid for each share is a secret. Now certainly a conversation could happen between the contestants for the dead corporation in a good old fashion price fixing/THREATS fashion that EVE commerce is legendary known for. (But remember this EVE where someone is always greedy!)

After the closed auction for dead corporation shares feelings are hurt, but the cycle of death and rebirth continues. Maybe the corporation in question is a one man outfit! Why would anyone buy that? Well maybe the name is cool. Maybe he left an old cruise ships in an office somewhere??? Maybe the corporate wallet is stuffed full of ISKIES!!!! Anything is possible?

Now I have read the statement that CCP wants to keep these corporations names intact just in case they want to return! Fair enough point! However in EVE it is perfectly legal to war dec a corporation into oblivion who has an active subscription pilots! So why is the player who left EVE Online exempt from this harsh reality of EVE??? If anything they are hurting active players with their bloat of gaming data and their space floating items a navigational hazard in space!

Eve has done a great job lately in fixing problems in game playing recently. It is very clear they are desperate to hold onto their subscription base! This idea could potentially open an entire new type of warfare! Stock shares could actually for the first time mean something in this game! Suddenly the industrialist who is lousy at PVP has an option for warfare that is more familiar to him! CORPRATE PIRATE HOSTILE TAKE OVER arrrggg!

To spur on competition for corporation charter licenses maybe there should only be a fixed amount of corporations allowed in Eve at one time. If I cite history and I always do! There are only so many star systems in EVE thus creating conflict for them. If can apply the same concepts to economic warfare! (The Caldari is made of Ruthless mega corporations blab la bla!)

What would the benefit to EVE online as a whole. Firstly it would delete a lot of bloat data in the game. (John's rookie ship that has been sitting in whatamatter U space station since 2006 can finally be deleted!) Dead sticks can be taken down for a profit not costing someone 50000000 isk and a gaming day in mindless shooting! )
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#15 - 2016-04-12 09:31:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Sylphy wrote:
I also don't see why people can't be more imaginative when making corporations/alliances.


You think "po1ice" is imaginative?


The corporation I'm in has existed since 22nd of November 2008 and doesn't fall into the category of dead corporations, so I don't see what this has to do with relevance to this topic. Whoever was making the corp, probably had some reasons for naming it such.

What the topic is about is probably someone wanted the name of Magna Charta or something "cool", but found out it was taken already.

The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.

Caleb Seremshur
Naked Oiled Bodybuilders
Parasitic Legion.
#16 - 2016-06-03 17:07:24 UTC
I said it years ago that corps should get charged a tax to stay open. If they run out of funding they close and any characters get booted to NPC corps.

If an entire corporation goes AFK for 12 months and noone keeps the wallet full then how can they complain? It becomes a game mechanic that self-regulates the idea of troll characters taking up names or perma-AFKs who are NEVER coming back.
Inevitability
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2016-07-24 06:05:45 UTC
If they aren't going to clean them up, then they need to open corp tickers to being up to six characters. Give us the ability to make more good ticker names.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#18 - 2016-07-25 20:10:45 UTC
Inevitability wrote:
If they haven't logged in since 2003-2005... chances are they aren't coming back. Sorry about your luck... but we have subscribing folks that want to have good corp names too.




You snooze, you lose.


Sorry, but if I'd taken a five year hiatus (or whatever) after playing for several years (and with a paid-for subscription, no less), I'd be pretty incensed that a Johnny-come-lately had stolen my identity.


Find another 'good' name. If you can't do that, may I suggest either a thesaurus or a list of baby names. Roll

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log