EVE New Citizens Q&A

All I've seen so far in this game are veterans dedicated to grief newbros... Period. Doesn't even matter if you stay in highsec trying to run missions/mine or whatever, griefing wannabe-pvpers allways shows up and thrive on ganking newbes. Probably making most the new players quit the game.

I can say I've given it a fair chance, trying out plenty of areas in the game but like I said, as a newbro you can't even run missions in highsec without griefing punks doing all they can to make new players quit.

Due to this the game must surely be loosing 99% of their new customers in this state? When all they see are griefing assholes 24/7. A game is suppose to be something fun right? Why would anyone pay for something like this. I sure won't. I have recruited six of my friends to play this game, not a single one stayed. Pretty sad veteran griefers are allowed to hammer newbros like this, could've been a game with a rather big playersbase otherwise...

Yes I'm ranting and yes I'm pissed off. Trying to establish something in this game whilst having entire corps dedicated to **** you over isn't really that fun tbh...

William, sorry for the loss of your 300m Brutix ... but nobody forced you to attack the flashy Enyo trying to bait you into a fight. You shot first, and now have to live with the consequences. Why is this not fair?

CCP showed the statistics in a presentation. I´ll edit the link into the post once i find it, but it´s true.

EDIT: haven´t found the video yet but check this thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5504176#post5504221 post #29 from DEV CCP Rise

EDIT2:
EVE Fanfest 2015: Using Science to Help Newbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92Ge2S8M1Y&list=PLQvKSs1k6DLOiGGb44McruXcndTtzUUlu&index=37

The first couple of minuets alread tackle this issue and I will leave it to you to watch it if interested.

Dearest OP;
I feel you need to get out of the NPC corp and into a good player corp. The good ship Friendship truly is the best ship in EVE. Once you start flying aboard the good ship Friendship, you'll find your life in EVE far more enjoyable.

KarmaFleet or Pandemic Hoarde along with E-Uni are all great organisations that take in newbros.



Actually, their Pod seals are just fine. There's plenty of evidence from CCP themselves that this is the case.

EVE is an RTS (real time strategy) game played from the point of view of a single unit (you). The point of the game is for large groups to band together (alliances), use resources to build a fleet, and conquer the map. PVE activities are mostly there to provide enough cash to support the PVP.

And high-sec is a crowded newbie zone with poor resources, where everyone who doesn't get the game stays and complains about the poor quality of life. The game doesn't force you out of high-sec any more than it forces you to STOP before you train useless skills to 5, but it gives strong incentives to move the hell out, in the form of poor rewards for your effort, and constant harassment from other players.

You've been exposed to the high-sec game, now. You can either quit, or take the hint and join a group that operates in low, null, or wormhole space, and move out of that toxic newbie zone.

Posting your complaints is ok, but as you can see, we're veterans who've stuck around because we like the game the way it is, so at most you'll just get replies that try to convert you to the "correct" way to play the game. Like this one.

I'm new, not as new as this character, but no more than 2 months total in Eve, and I got owned a couple of times. In fairness, it didnt detract from my enjoyment, in fact it highlighted to me how unimportant I am in the eve world..i'm no READY MADE hero, I have no super powers...in short, it's about earning your worth.

Initially, I agree, it's a bit of a culture shock. Being an ex-console gamer who has only just moved to PC, I was use to being hand held and looked after by my games..Eve doesn't care about me, and I LOVE that.

When I get to be the one dishing out the pain, i'll know I earned it fair and square...the rewards are all down to me and my perseverance.

Now I spend my spare time, reading up, watching the forums and learning as much as I can in order to avoid having my backside handed to me too often.

Stick with it mate....because EVE favours the Bold and the Brave.

No thats not what I thought. And no, loosing a domi is not cause enough for me to take the time and criticize this flaw. If you insist on bringing up my last encounter I can explain that for you. I got tired of those scumbags warping in every single mission I was running and stealing my loot, in highsec, pretty much without any risk and allways getting away with it. So I dicided to try and kill one of them. Yea that went bad. Am I salty for loosing a domi to griefers? Yea. Was that the reason I posted this thread? No, it might've been the last straw that made me quit though. I do think that a game that allows entire corps to live off newbros in highsec by extortion and miningfees etc is just plain wrong and a really bad design. I loved pvp in lowsec so don't go screaming about that I want eve to become like wow, I never said that. But I also think newbros should be able to establish a foothold in highsec without all toxic veterans.

Ehmmm I have spent most of my time doing fw-pvp and wh explorations, I have no issues with lowsec and pvp etc. I love the pvp in eve. But I don't like the fact that corps can grief newbros in highsec without any repercussions what so ever.

mate , get out of that npc corp immediately.
thats the toxic environment.

you have a ballsy kill board so evidently you are not thick, or risk averse .
yet all i hear from you is the thick, risk averse half-truths and truisms i hear from those godforsaked edjits that sit in npc corp forever.

eve is about conflict and is filled to the brim with conflict drivers,
even in highsec,

i used to spend an inordinate amount of time suspect baiting and occasionally a newbro would bite,
after the fight was done (usually in my favor) i would convo them and see what they would say to me,
most were chilled out and to those i would offer advice, links to the resources and websites i use
and if they were particularly good spirited id reimburse their loss.
hell we even recruited guys this way.

try talking to one of the guys in high without mouthing off at him and see how it goes.
you might be surprised at how the "griefer" responds,
if hes anything like us ( the lads that used to dominate that shtick in area of space ) you will find he should be willing to chat with you, give advice ,have a bit of a laugh with you.
if hes a knob to you ill come down there myself and kick his teeth in for you.

Thanks I guess, you're the first one to acknowledge that I do not mind fighting in lowsec and loosing ships in the process. It's actually one of the things I love to do in EVE. And yea acutally they allways convo me first, but it's nothing at all like in lowsec where we sometimes discuss the fight afterwards to learn, or at the very least type GF in local. In HS it's all about them getting ISK in exchange for not blowing up ships or paying a fee to run missions or do mining in the systems. Also ofc they feed of people getting upset, no news there I guess. Either they get paid or players rage so I guesss they almost allways get something out of it.

I just don't think it's a good mechanic for new players. As a newbro you just arent going to have fun in HS, thats for sure. I just don't really approve the fact that entire corps are allowed to blackmail/suicidegank/extort newbros in HS pretty much riskfree. It's what causing me giving up on eve, I thought I could earn ISK via PVE in HS to fund my PVP but I guess not. All my friends gave up on the game aswell... I´m completely convinced that this is causing most ppl on trial to abandon the game. Just way to toxic in HS where you start out exploring the game.