EVE New Citizens Q&A

So, been reading up on the back story of Eve, and I never realised there was so much to it.

One thing that stuck out was the absence of the Jovians...from what I have read they were a big part of the universe and yey until now i'd heard no mention (been playing longer than this character)

Were they ever a playable race? and are there any plans to bring them back into the story?

Perhaps someone here can fill me in on their relevance to the universe.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks for that, seems like they were one of the abandoned tribes when the gate closed..strange how they are not a playable race then. Am I right in thinking that they developed capsuleer technology and made it available to the other tribes?

It'd be kinda cool to play as the shady weird self-altering master-race.

The Jovians have influence but no presence. They are the elder race and a lot of our technology is based on their hand-me-downs. The invincible CONCORD police cruisers are Jovian tech. Sleeper technology which gives us T3 ships is 2nd empire Jove. For what they've been up to recently: https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/inheritance/

"Although definitely human, the Jovians often seem to the other races as though they are not, the reason being that they embraced genetic engineering as the way to solve any and all the problems which plague the human race....Years of genetic engineering formed of the Jovian Disease, a deadly disease that only afflicts the Jove, which has caused millions of Jove to die as a result of interfering with their basic instincts."..

For further informations: http://eve.wikia.com/wiki/Jove_Empire

Especially the short paragraph about the Third Jovian Empire of today's New Eden is important
(infuence of jovian technology on capsuleers and ships)

In-character:

The Jovians are a race of humans (like the other 4 races) who didn't go through the thousands of years of dark ages after the EVE wormhole closed. As a result, their tech is very advanced, and they don't make themselves visible because they don't want to introduce advanced tech into societies that aren't ready for it. A lot of our tech is based on whatever we could get from them or what they released to us intentionally.

In-game:

You can show info on the NPC corporation that owns any station, then click the icons for the empire they belong to, and then look at the relationships between the empires (in the show info window). You'll see the Jovians listed there, and you can also see the "member corps" that are associated with them. So they do have representatives, in-game.

More recently, other post-human offshoots have been introduced - Drifters, Sleepers, etc. These either survived via cryo-stasis, or by moving their minds to a virtual reality environment, or have died and are now archaeological ruins and left-over database banks.

Out-of-character:

This game was made by CCP devs because they liked to play this kind of game themselves. Initially they reserved the Jovian race for themselves, and would appear in-game flying Jove ships. Thus, the whole "all our ships come from the Jove" concept is an inside joke - all our ships come from CCP. But anyway, after a few early incidents where players immediately attacked the visible Devs and managed to kill their ships (with 99% resists to everything, btw), and get their hands on horribly overpowered loot that had to be manually removed from inventory, the devs decided to no longer appear in-game in any sort of ship, other than organized events where they fly average ships like us and roleplay various NPCs for us to interact with.

The Jove regions are indeed an area of space that has no stargates or wormholes that connect to the rest of the player areas, and CCP devs can use that space to bug-test various things directly in the TQ (tranquility server) environment.

If you really want to dive deep into the lore of EVE, I'd highly recommend Mark726's EVE Lore Survival Guide. It starts at the beginning and provides tons of information collected from various canon sources.

There's also Hydrostatic Podcast which does frequent lore panels about various lore-based topics.

I played with a guy once that claimed he played a Jovian character during early beta. The guy was on an '03 toon so I believe him. He said that Jovian characters were removed during later beta testing.

To drift into RP a little bit, the thing that kinda bugs me is that CCP is presenting the prime fiction races like the Jovians at a kindergarden level of social maturity and organization.

Specifically, there's a lot of player politics in EVE, and there's a lot of politics in RL, yet all these races act completely unified, as if they have a single mind, as if there is no bickering or opposing sects. Even when their racial background says they love to splinter into opposing bickering sects, we never see that, they always act unified.

And also, if you think about it, the general populace doesn't have access to the gates, or to ships, or to most of the tech. If something wipes out CONCORD or whoever has the passwords to the gates, we'll be able to do ... nothing. So some of these master plans that the prime fiction NPCs come up with, to destroy all capsuleers, or to destroy everyone in the EVE Universe, they don't really make sense.

And it also doesn't make sense when your race is down to, say, 150 civilians (like the Jove), that you've maintained full control over all the passwords and security measures required to operate ALL of your tech, no matter how fringe. They should have lost control over their tech long ago as their population dwindled. We should have seen this process.

Yea,

this is pretty standard in fiction though. In the Belgarion series the Sendarians were all farmers, the Cheriks sailors, etc, etc. In sci-fi people from planet x are all loan sharks, and people from planet y mercenaries....

I do not trust the Jove. They've been manipulating space politics for quite some time, only introducing whatever tech advances their goal. Never mistake 'powerful' for 'benevolent'.

They've recently retaken their seat on the council (will provide link when I find it), following a Drifter-related (or was it Talocan?) discovery and soon afterwards Xenuria got elected for CSM. Coincidence? I think not!!

Jove Meddling behind the scenes

Add to this the highly suspicious monitoring the Jove have apparently been doing (logs were leaked) and there is clearly reason for concern.