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Best ships for killing interdictors on gates
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Kharne De'Argent
Three bros and a dream
#1 - 2016-07-21 03:59:48 UTC
I've been having a string of run ins interdictors recently (sansha space...) and I'm considering starting a corp for killing the buggers. My idea was to have explorers in fleets of two for quickly clearing systems and safety, and clearing explorer hunters where we can find them.

Initially I thought an Astero and some kind of combat cruiser teamed up, perhaps an Astero and an Arbitrator with scanner probes and a relic analyzer. Then figured why not skip the middleman and just go straight to two Stratios, but I hear they can be vulnerable in Nullsec?

Curious as to what peoples thoughts were on what is efficient for killing Sabres, Flycatchers, Scythe Fleet issues, etc.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2016-07-21 06:09:10 UTC
The minmatar destroyer lineup, the Catalyst, Algos, Dragoon, Coercer, Cormorant, Corax, Moa, Caracal, Vexor, Thorax, Omen, Arbitrator, Stratios, Orga- erm Climax- errm Phantasm (sorry I always pronounce this wrong), vigilant, Gila, ashimmu, Osprey Navy Issue, Caracal "police brutality" Navy Issue, Vexor Navy Issue, Omen Navy Issue, Augruor Navy Issue, some minmatar cruiser class whatever they call ship and of course the Hawk, Harpy, Ishkur, the other Gallente one, Vengeance, Retribution and the following:

- Hecate
- Confessor
- Jackdaw
- Stork
- Pontifex
- sorry forgot the Amarr one's name
- tengu
- proteus
- legion
- the barba- errm minmatar have one of those too.

I am sure, you might like at least one of those on the list.

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Kharne De'Argent
Three bros and a dream
#3 - 2016-07-21 07:53:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kharne De'Argent
Thanks! A lot to choose from. From those I think I like the Arbi, Confessor, Gila and Stratios the best. Thoughts on how these would run in a pair, and some fits?

[Gila, Explorer Gila]
Shield Power Relay I
Shield Power Relay I
Co-Processor II

Relic Analyzer II
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
50MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I

[Arbitrator, Explorer Arbi]
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Relic Analyzer II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Tracking Diagnostic Subroutines I

Hammerhead II x5

[Confessor, Explofessor]
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Heat Sink II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

1MN Afterburner II
Relic Analyzer II
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler

Small Focused Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S
[empty high slot]
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I

Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Anti-Thermal Pump II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Gleam S x4
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8

[Stratios, Explorer Stratios]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Relic Analyzer II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Drone Link Augmentor II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Energy Nosferatu I
Small Energy Nosferatu I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Kairavi Mrithyakara
#4 - 2016-07-21 12:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kairavi Mrithyakara
Those fits... Those are not good fits, Mr. Silver.

For one, Gilas are bonused for medium drones and have 20mb/s bandwidth. So you've got missiles + medium drones to work with, but you can't use sentries with it. Like, not even one, because 20mb/s.

The other three fits don't play to the strengths of the hull either (that Stratios, for example: don't mount a sub-optimal shield buffer, make use of the armour bonuses.)

If you're flying two/three person gangs to try to kill said gate camps, pick one of the hulls mentioned above, use a PvP fit (with NO exploration modules!!!!) and go roaming.

Or, if you want to go solo, fit your ship to be too quick for them to get you, and carry a spare exploration fit in the hold that you can switch into once you have found a suitable site.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2016-07-21 12:21:22 UTC
Kairavi Mrithyakara wrote:
Those fits... Those are not good fits, Mr. Silver.

....


What she said and the boat you are looking for is the Stratios, she works very good with an Astero or 2 Stratioses and Asteros.

The Confessor is an all round pvp boat, ask your alliance mates, I met one of them with mine and was very helpful in bringing him back from unknown space to highsec Smile

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-07-21 15:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
I don't really understand the scenario tbh.

Your purpose is to kill interdictors camping gates, these guys are usually not alone. You know that right?

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#7 - 2016-07-21 15:33:25 UTC
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Kharne De'Argent
Three bros and a dream
#8 - 2016-07-21 18:07:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kharne De'Argent
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I don't really understand the scenario tbh.

You're purpose is to kill interdictors camping gates, these guys are usually not alone. You know that right?


I'm hoping to limit my PVP to pirates targeting explorers, while doing some exploring myself. Clean up Sansha Space one gate camp at a time kind of thing. I'm hoping that eventually I can have some fleets to help, I guess until that time avoid gate camps with groups?
Kalmr Varys
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-07-21 18:48:38 UTC
You could always try to mid-warp smartbomb trick. Ships can be killed with smartbombs even in warp, and for a given warp speed a ship will always hit the same few spots as it goes by server tick. Time it right and you can kill them with almost zero risk.
The Heptone
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-07-22 11:05:30 UTC
What can kill a solo interdictor ? Possibly 80% of eve ships.

What you have to wonder is (unless you are setting traps and have multiple accounts) what ship will look engageable and yet beat a dictor 9 times out of 10. I don't see why people are suggesting things like proteus, stratioses or RLML caracal, it seems pretty obvious that they are good dictor counters, but which dictor will engage that alone ?

You have to downgrade to the point most dictors will take the fight, yet you may be able to win.

Against a sabre, you coudl try these:

- max DPS AC thrasher or 250mm arty thrasher w/ web
- AB battle heron with a tracking disruptor
- AB battle helios " " " "
- AB kestrel
- Rail daredevil

etc. etc.

Remember you have to look like a valid target, no be a big scary obvious counter, if a camping dictor pilot wants to opt out of the fight he will. Take a few of these campers' killboards and see what they usually go for. Find one of these typical targets and fit it accordingly to be able to counter a sabre.


elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2016-07-22 14:53:37 UTC
Kharne De'Argent wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I don't really understand the scenario tbh.

You're purpose is to kill interdictors camping gates, these guys are usually not alone. You know that right?


I'm hoping to limit my PVP to pirates targeting explorers, while doing some exploring myself. Clean up Sansha Space one gate camp at a time kind of thing. I'm hoping that eventually I can have some fleets to help, I guess until that time avoid gate camps with groups?


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Blinky Jimmy
Irreducibly Insane
Salty..
#12 - 2016-07-22 15:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Blinky Jimmy
I've found that Dictors almost always engage AFs. I've beaten flycatchers and sabres in a Harpy, and was beating a sabre in one instance until I had to run b/c friends showed up. Try an AF.