EVE General Discussion

Wormhole systems always have at least one wormhole leading to them at all times (the "Static" wormhole). When it collapses a new one spawns in the system. All the Citadel owners have to do when they log in is to scan down another wormhole.

There are always WH connections, it might be that the new one leads you to 0.0 or requires you to travel through a few more WH to finally find your way back to high sec. On top of that there's static connections where there will always be a connection to that same system type (not the actual system), if one gets removed a new one pops up really quickly. So if you have a wormhole with a static to high sec and that one is gone a new one to high sec will appear.

On your immediate problem there's a few simple rules for WH life. ALWAYS HAVE A PROBE LAUNCHER, ALWAYS BRING BACKUP PROBES, ANY ship that enters a WH system should have a probe launcher. It could be off lined to save cpu and then only online it when needed, It could even be in your cargo hold and then have a mobile depot with you so you can refit in space. It doesn't matter how you get it done but you must have a probe launcher with probes with you at all times.

When I lived in w-space for nearly 3 years, everyone in the corp had at least one probing character logged-out in the system.

We also had zero-skill probing characters logged-out, and a supply of probing skill books and ships, so in an emergency a pilot could be trained to probe.

In the meantime, ample supplies were kept on-hand so that a no-skill probing alt could keep things fueled and operating.

To this day, even in hisec, I have a character I've designated the starbase manager, whom I use to maintain the starbase. This character is never allowed to stray very far from the starbase for any length of time.

FYI, I could probe wormholes with level 2 skills (back then, that meant only 5 probes) in a T1 probing frigate. The vast majority of wormholes have a large signature that is easiest to probe.

Once when we joined an alliance and had a neighbour in the system that was attacked (they had a smaller, less well defended tower), I was the one that risked guarded bubbles on the wormholes to bring an allied fleet in to the rescue. Afterwards, I was the only logistics pilot available to rep the tower's shield, with the help of several battleships feeding me capacitor.

Since no one touched on this as of yet (while all the other posts contain sound advice)

The Citadel is just fine - its a "private" citadel - docking rights are denied because the owners choose to not share access.

It's likely there's someone in there logged off....they wouldn't just leave it sitting there.

Might even be the battleship you saw was one of them taking a look - saw you - and just left thinking your a non-issue or not worth the time.

Don't always assume citadels are open to docking :)

If it was off-lined - don't know as I've not encountered one...and they don't behave like POS's so at best..you just didn't have docking rights.

Good luck on your WHS diving adventures. :)

This is the sort of gameplay that uses the player and the "map" to generate experiences...play. Gankers have no hope to think like this. That's why they gank. It's up to us not to let them redefine our game into their idea of "thinking"...defy the take over of the Idiocracy.

Well done, and interesting.

TackyTachy1 - others have addressed your question I think, (basically if they don't have a dormant (off line) scanning alt in that citadel, they're screwed)

But to your "DOH !!!" moment. I think most of us have been there, once, maybe twice. Recently, I'd built a fresh cruiser and wanted to see how it'd fare solo against C2 rats. I was so focused on that test that I neglected to toss my depot, probes and launcher kit into my cargo hold. I even checked the WH's life expectancy before entering it and it "looked" to be good for a while. Went in and was able to easily pop my C2 targets. Went back to the WH bookmark and had that DOH! moment. Then my heart sank 3 times, and deeper each time. Once when I realized that the WH was gone. Then when I realized I had neglected to toss the proper hardware in my cargo hold. The finally when I realized what I'd probably have to do to get out of this screwup.

I wasn't going to quickly give up and bite down on that poison tooth. SO I mapped out several "safe spots" in case someone decided to have fun with me, (I was low on ammo, and std ammo at that) and logged in several times over the next few days watching and D-scanning. Then on the fifth day, a scanning ship showed up and answered my hails. The pilot was a friendly WH mapper for a corp and had no problems tossing me a bookmark to a HiSec WH exit, WHICH turned out to be a mere 5 jumps from my "home" system of operations at the time.

Needless to say, (but I will anyways) I lucked out big time! Proved that there are still friendly, civil pilots in New Eden. And don't give up without a fight. I know many have the "Edge of Tomorrow" attitude and that is your decision and I don't fault anyone for being able to take that route. But I was unwilling to simply mash the easy button opting to instead try to negotiate my way home. It worked !

Tru story bro !

Good info and some nice entertaining story's.


DMC

Wow! Another take back I guess, last I read was that they didnt want forts or keepstars in WH space. I stand corrected.

AFAIK the limit is that you need a feigner to deploy them, but you can't bring a freighter in most WH, so you need to build it locally, then the large or huge citadel and then deploy it.