EVE General Discussion

What does a character earn if all of its skills are trained? Does the SP just pool for later use?

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Microsoft was sued over the inclusion of Internet Explorer free with Windows 98, which put then-dominant Netscape Navigator out of business. As part of Steve Jobs' save-Apple plan in late 1997, they had to bundle IE with new installs of the Mac OS: Microsoft bought a lot of Apple stock, and that was one of their conditions. IE in that time was notoriously non-standards-compliant, which meant a web developer had to choose between writing for IE and everything else.
Because of how closely it was integrated with the desktop of Windows, it had serious security issues, which is why Firefox came around and was so popular.

And, because Microsoft seriously deserves it, let's go at a few of their other anti-innovations:
When Windows Vista came out, it had a Direct3D-based desktop compositor. Before Vista, a lot of games were written with OpenGL to do the 3D graphics work. Before DirectX became effectively mandatory, a lot of games were written to use OpenGL (Quake 1/2/3 and a LOT of games written on those engines, Decent 3, Warcraft 3). This made porting software to other platforms that much easier. The Windows desktop compositor wasn't supposed to play nice with OpenGL, so all the game devs switched to DirectX, pretty much locking them into Windows as a platform. With OpenGL functionally written out of the scene and put on the driver developers' back burners (AMD, NVidia, or Intel wrote your OpenGL runtime), PC gamers were locked into Windows harder than ever before.
The Windows 10 forced upgrade was... not smart. Unless you knew what you were doing (knew where to get a clean install of Never10), you were going to get stuck with Windows 10. It wouldn't let you opt out unless you read very carefully. That's the kind of behavior spyware installers used to use in the XP days: they'd keep prompting you to install the ActiveX control, and not quit until the user accepted. Is it a functionally better OS? Probably, but if it's going to behave like that, I don't want it. If you're a businesses with software which works with 7 but not 10... yeah.

And that kind of thing is why people who know are afraid of the Universal Windows App.
On the surface, it's a very good concept: every app is sandboxed so it doesn't have the run of your system. That's a seriously good thing for games, which are notoriously insecure and love to demand admin privileges. Except...
Because it's Microsoft, well... they've got a history of setting up platform lock-in. There's a good chance of "You have to use UWA if you want to use [insert new technology here]" in the future.

As for what this has to do with this feature, this feature is blatant and nearsighted stab at monetization, and a naked attempt at selling power. Spend more money to "improve your game experience" (buy stats) in a PvP game.... nice way to make money, and seriously bad for the game itself. Read this and see where it's headed.

Also relevant. Notice how many times he says "NEVER SELL POWER."

If anything you are proving my point. Netscape was dominant and if anything should have been sued under the Sherman Antitrust Act. But it wasn't and never will be because Microsoft took their market share. Netscape also got back at Microsoft by the creation of the Mozilla Foundation which lead to the rise of Firefox..which undermined Microsoft's market share and in turn has lost market share to chrome. And internet explorer is approaching a 10% market share....without having been broken up.

IRON did it because in a game like EVE, you don't often get to be the "first" to do something significant and notable. IRON achieved something nobody else will ever get to claim, and I guarantee you the 1.8~T isk was worth it to him. When you have the kind of ISK he has, it actually becomes hard to spend it on things nobody else can buy.

Forgive me if this has been mentioned...however, every time I see the subject line to this thread on the ToC, I think, "How many years did they say it would take to do this...again?"

So it becomes very apparent how incredible unimportant currency is. He can biomass now.

Yes, it is.
Firefox didn't exist in 1999.
Microsoft wasn't out of ideas, it just had its own and used its dominance of the PC market to make them happen.
You might look up Patent Litigation Enterprises and how they work.
Also consider what happens when a food worker gets sick with that tiny paycheck they take home. They're supposed to go home, but on such thin margins, they almost certainly don't always.
And those laws about keeping a path to the fire exit. It almost never leads to anything bad, but when it does, it's really bad.

CCP is well within their rights to put in P2W-oriented microtransactions. Most players know P2W-type games cost ridiculous amounts to pay competitively, they're going to be out a lot of money for it. About the only people who can legitimately ignore the advantage of injectors are the people who sit in a station in chat all day, and the people who already have all the skills they need. About the only type of player who would welcome a shift in the direction of P2W is someone with a lot of money to burn.
A lot of players see P2W and head straight back out the door because of how incredibly bad it is even without being in a PvP environment. Without a certain critical mass of real players, most of EVE would become seriously monotonous, because we are most of what make the difference between one system or region and the next-unless they want to get into creating and maintaining a [i]lot] more scripted content.
EVE is special among MMOs, because of how long it's managed to last, and because of how it was designed to allow and encourage player-generated history. It gets us to invest quite a bit of time and money and creative energy into it, and is way out there as far as MMOs go. Most of us consider a game with this much history worth preserving. We don't want it to turn into NES PvP, because of how incredibly bad that game would be.

He's saying that no matter how much SP and ISK you have you don't become any better at playing the game. You can drop $3k on your first day in EVE and have the best ship on the planet and if you fight someone who knows how to play the game you'll get absolutely destroyed.

Golden ammo, ships, and modules.

How about invulnerability tokens? You pay PLEX, you get a token for 60 seconds of complete damage invulnerability, to be activated at your discretion.

I mean we (and CCP) can always come up with more ideas to further ruin the game.