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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#21 - 2016-07-20 15:06:20 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
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Really? A drake can tank a C3? O_o Do you have a fit by chance that can do C3's? Because the cost of a Drake compared to a Tengu is a big difference and might be a good learning ship to get into for WH combat sites.

-Maykid


I heard that too but I am not sure. You have to make sure, you follow eve-survival by the letter and you can find a Drake fit in my obituary of the fallen.

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-07-20 15:32:30 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
atomic killer wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Hey everyone,
... a tengu fit...

I need the CPU implant for now but will change very quickly. Does this look like a good enough fit for WH's preferably running C4's solo?
-Maykid


1x Tengu in a class 4 wormhole is a no no. The sleepers there will violate your tengu so fast that you will get dizzy. A golem can do it but I don't recommend soloing the sites.

A class 3 is a different story and your tengu will be fine.


Tengu can even run C5...with a regengu fit.


I'll stick to C3's with my Tengu then and run dual rattles for C4!

Do you by chance have a fit that can run that? I would definitely love to test that on SiSi for sure especially if it works that would be nuts and would seem very thrilling to do.

I also saw another post of Marauders being able to do C4's and possibly C5's, which Marauder would be good to run C4's and maybe if I'm even remotely lucky to run C5's? I was thinking the Vargur due to guns needing no cap but not sure if that would work out well.
Would prefer to stick with the Tengu but I'm up for anything that can take a punch and deliver a dynamite back :)

-Maykid


Regengu fit, you have been given a few of these already Blink

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#23 - 2016-07-20 15:52:05 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
atomic killer wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Hey everyone,
... a tengu fit...

I need the CPU implant for now but will change very quickly. Does this look like a good enough fit for WH's preferably running C4's solo?
-Maykid


1x Tengu in a class 4 wormhole is a no no. The sleepers there will violate your tengu so fast that you will get dizzy. A golem can do it but I don't recommend soloing the sites.

A class 3 is a different story and your tengu will be fine.


Tengu can even run C5...with a regengu fit.


I'll stick to C3's with my Tengu then and run dual rattles for C4!

Do you by chance have a fit that can run that? I would definitely love to test that on SiSi for sure especially if it works that would be nuts and would seem very thrilling to do.

I also saw another post of Marauders being able to do C4's and possibly C5's, which Marauder would be good to run C4's and maybe if I'm even remotely lucky to run C5's? I was thinking the Vargur due to guns needing no cap but not sure if that would work out well.
Would prefer to stick with the Tengu but I'm up for anything that can take a punch and deliver a dynamite back :)

-Maykid


Regengu fit, you have been given a few of these already Blink


That is very true... But those can actually withstand a C4 and C5? Because if so... I'm going to get myself lost in WH's for a while =D
Actually I might just try it on SiSi and see what happens... That might be fun.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#24 - 2016-07-20 21:46:46 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
aldhura wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Ah alright, well that kind of sucks...

So 2 Rattles can do it I'm assuming with the Rattlesnake fit that is up above ^^^^
And that's a plus too I guess as well since both can be bought for the price of 1 Tengu!

But a Tengu can still solo a C3 just fine correct? Or has that changed?
Sorry for 'noobish' question just new to combat sites in WH's, and looks like a lot of fun from what I can see :) Might as well do something you think is fun in a game right?

But thank you for your responses! Really appreciate it!

-Maykid



tengu can easily solo a c3, as can a drake :)


Really? A drake can tank a C3? O_o Do you have a fit by chance that can do C3's? Because the cost of a Drake compared to a Tengu is a big difference and might be a good learning ship to get into for WH combat sites.

-Maykid



Drake is slow. This is also going to depend on your skills. You can get more tank if you switch invuln for LSE and drop bcu for another SPR.

[Drake, c3]

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#25 - 2016-07-21 00:13:51 UTC
aldhura wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
aldhura wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
Ah alright, well that kind of sucks...

So 2 Rattles can do it I'm assuming with the Rattlesnake fit that is up above ^^^^
And that's a plus too I guess as well since both can be bought for the price of 1 Tengu!

But a Tengu can still solo a C3 just fine correct? Or has that changed?
Sorry for 'noobish' question just new to combat sites in WH's, and looks like a lot of fun from what I can see :) Might as well do something you think is fun in a game right?

But thank you for your responses! Really appreciate it!

-Maykid



tengu can easily solo a c3, as can a drake :)


Really? A drake can tank a C3? O_o Do you have a fit by chance that can do C3's? Because the cost of a Drake compared to a Tengu is a big difference and might be a good learning ship to get into for WH combat sites.

-Maykid



Drake is slow. This is also going to depend on your skills. You can get more tank if you switch invuln for LSE and drop bcu for another SPR.

[Drake, c3]

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I





Very interesting fit, I see a lot of potential in this. Cheap too which is something I like :) Definitely will be playing around with this a lot and if I like it enough might save up for a Drake BPO and start making Drakes to play around in.

Thanks for the fit!

-Maykid
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#26 - 2016-07-21 01:33:38 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
Very interesting fit, I see a lot of potential in this. Cheap too which is something I like :) Definitely will be playing around with this a lot and if I like it enough might save up for a Drake BPO and start making Drakes to play around in.

Thanks for the fit!

-Maykid


And do try them out on SiSi. My goto advice is, try on SiSi. It saves you isk and time and you have infinite replacements.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#27 - 2016-07-21 13:30:39 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
Very interesting fit, I see a lot of potential in this. Cheap too which is something I like :) Definitely will be playing around with this a lot and if I like it enough might save up for a Drake BPO and start making Drakes to play around in.

Thanks for the fit!

-Maykid


And do try them out on SiSi. My goto advice is, try on SiSi. It saves you isk and time and you have infinite replacements.


I definitely plan on jumping on SiSi and trying my luck there. Rather do that and lose it and say well time for another try at it instead of losing the actual 200M - 1.4B that I could lose. SiSi rocks for testing out different fits! :)

-Maykid
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-07-21 13:33:16 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
Very interesting fit, I see a lot of potential in this. Cheap too which is something I like :) Definitely will be playing around with this a lot and if I like it enough might save up for a Drake BPO and start making Drakes to play around in.

Thanks for the fit!

-Maykid


And do try them out on SiSi. My goto advice is, try on SiSi. It saves you isk and time and you have infinite replacements.


Not really, so difficult to get all the faction mods on sisi

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#29 - 2016-07-21 13:36:17 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
Very interesting fit, I see a lot of potential in this. Cheap too which is something I like :) Definitely will be playing around with this a lot and if I like it enough might save up for a Drake BPO and start making Drakes to play around in.

Thanks for the fit!

-Maykid


And do try them out on SiSi. My goto advice is, try on SiSi. It saves you isk and time and you have infinite replacements.


Not really, so difficult to get all the faction mods on sisi


Really? Mhm... That kind of sucks... I guess I'll have to make due somehow... Mhm...
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-07-21 15:32:25 UTC
I think you can do something with a command that copies ships or something. I'm not a sis vet though so no idea on the specifics.

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-07-21 15:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I think you can do something with a command that copies ships or something. I'm not a sis vet though so no idea on the specifics.


oh really? i didnt know that

Edit: found it! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=410214

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#32 - 2016-07-21 16:19:02 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I think you can do something with a command that copies ships or something. I'm not a sis vet though so no idea on the specifics.


Oh that's really cool... I might have to look into it on SiSi. Might have to try out POS living in WH too in SiSi just to get a feel of it. >.> But might end up joining a WH corp too if it comes down to it.
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#33 - 2016-07-21 16:26:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Maykid Achilles
aldhura wrote:

Drake is slow. This is also going to depend on your skills. You can get more tank if you switch invuln for LSE and drop bcu for another SPR.

[Drake, c3]

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I





I think I found a little variation of this that has about the same kind of resists, but better dps and possibly better tank as well. Here is what I created...

[Drake, PvE WH v2]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Salvage Drone I x5


Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x9000
Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x5000
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16


Could this work in a C3 and still be efficient? Otherwise I might try it on SiSi and see if I can get it to explode... >_>

-Maykid
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#34 - 2016-07-21 17:36:10 UTC
yep, should work. Faction ammo works better on the frigs and cruisers, so I used just carry them as you don't see many BS.
Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#35 - 2016-07-21 18:13:09 UTC
aldhura wrote:
yep, should work. Faction ammo works better on the frigs and cruisers, so I used just carry them as you don't see many BS.


Ah, good to know! So maybe 50% faction ammo 30% fury and 20% precision? Or what would you suggest?

-Maykid
Matt Benneth
Strictly Moral Support
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#36 - 2016-07-21 18:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Matt Benneth
Maykid Achilles wrote:

Could this work in a C3 and still be efficient? Otherwise I might try it on SiSi and see if I can get it to explode... >_>


This will not work. You will be neuted and then you will die.

EDIT: If you want missile boat that is not Tengu, try Cerberus:

[Cerberus, C3]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
IFFA Compact Damage Control

Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Gist X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Hobgoblin II x3
Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x5000


550 DPS tank, 750 DPS with Rage missiles.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#37 - 2016-07-21 18:38:13 UTC
Matt Benneth wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:

Could this work in a C3 and still be efficient? Otherwise I might try it on SiSi and see if I can get it to explode... >_>


This will not work. You will be neuted and then you will die.

EDIT: If you want missile boat that is not Tengu, try Cerberus:

[Cerberus, C3]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
IFFA Compact Damage Control

Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Gist X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Hobgoblin II x3
Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x5000


550 DPS tank, 750 DPS with Rage missiles.


Depends on your skill, it is just over 60% cap stable, you only need 50% ish to get through a c3 anom.
Matt Benneth
Strictly Moral Support
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#38 - 2016-07-21 20:09:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Matt Benneth
Its not about being stable at 50%, its about cap regeneration. Drake with Shield Power Relays in lows will have very poor cap regen. Even rattlesnake will have hard time running cap intensive modules in C3 wormhole.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#39 - 2016-07-21 23:52:08 UTC
Matt Benneth wrote:
Its not about being stable at 50%, its about cap regeneration. Drake with Shield Power Relays in lows will have very poor cap regen. Even rattlesnake will have hard time running cap intensive modules in C3 wormhole.


The advice I offer is from experience, I have been there and done this for a long time. But each to his own..
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