Crime & Punishment

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do that will not easily be circumvented by using other containers and/or put those that use fleet hangers as risked at being suspect flagged through no action of their own. There is no point wasting development time on an attempted solution that will just be circumvented almost as easily, or make using fleet hangers much more risky to solve this.

The correct solution is to make the goods themselves "stolen" and holding them turn you suspect rather than the flag being given for just looting. Perhaps then stolen flag can be then removed from the goods at a station for a small fee or after some time. But unfortunately the database doesn't work that way and giving items that flag isn't possible so we are left with a system where players can launder the stolen goods in space.

There are other options though. If you are trying to mess with gankers, their looters are doing nothing that you can't also do. You too can steal the loot with minimal risk using an noobship. It's maybe a little more risk than sitting there behind the protection of CONCORD in a fast-locking ship waiting for a target to go suspect so you can shoot them like fish in a barrel, but not much. Just get a friend with a fleet hanger and scoop the loot before the gankers. Or scoop it in a combat ship, stabbed hauler or one of the many other ways you can grab the loot.

It always comes back to the fact that if you give players safety, the bad guys will find ways to use that safety against other players. Moving goods around highsec is extremely safe so in the end there is not much you are going to be able to do once the loot has been scooped. In this case, the pirate is the one who can secure the goods using safety of highsec giving the anti-gankers a taste of the problem of removing loot from another player who is under the protection of highsec mechanics.

People need to bump the Bustard and the freighter so they are not close enough together, simple really.

Because the OP missed out the important part, the noob ship pilot is moving it into the Bustard, but at the same time the other playing is moving it into the freighter from the bustard.

I would not change it, its fine as it is.

If you take a step back and look at the big picture. They are changing the game in ways that are ruining the way you choose to play it. They aren't actually whining, they are a slow methodical steam roller that is outright flattening you play style.

Don't call them whiners, call them winners! (it's more accurate)

Delicious!

I think your sarcasm meter may need a tune up

Wait...I thought you guys were *saving* high sec...

*dreams shattered*

It is illogical and unrealistic when frigate with 500m3 move cargo from wreck with volume 60 000m3 to another ship in one step. When frigate after looting turn to suspect, then the loot had to be on board of the frigate. But this not true, player in frigate move loot direct to fleet hangar - and then must be suspect player in ship with fleet hangar. Or frigate move loot first to its board, turn to suspect, and then move loot to fleet hangar of second ship.

Solution is easy: player can move contents to fleet hangar only from his own ship.

Besides that, stealed loot should be illegal goods and everyone with illegal goods on board should be suspect. The same mechanic like someone steal loot from wreck or container.

Otherwise "every idiots ALWAYS wins"

Wreck highsec... quite the drama you make up! Cats and Dogs living together. Wrath of god!

Tears are absent of this post, just there desire to make the game fair for gankers and for everyone else.

You must be new and don't understand how this works.

Threads calling for nerfs or buffs to your specific playstyle because you can't cut it with the current rules are by definition tears. Not to be confused with concerns about upcoming changes not yet in the game which is something completely different. You anti-ganker seam to confuse the two a lot. Well you are so bad in the game why should it be different in the forums...

Having experienced multiple nerf iterations I can tell you how this will work out. You obviously expect everything will stay the same and you get a bunch of yellow haulers to kill. That's not what will happen.

In the best case scenario the gankers will adapt, everything will be more or less the same and you will be back on the forums crying for the next nerf. That is how it usually works.

In any other case it will most likely introduce a new game mechanic which is confusing or completely unknown to most people except those who actually care about how the game works, like for example the "gankers", and which can potentially be used against all the carebears who did not bother to read the patch notes in the first place.

Like the options? not? why not start to work with the current game mechanics today? If anti-ganking would actually do something and not constantly lose and seriously suck at the game we wouldn't have another thread about wreck looting since the hauler would still be alive. This whole thread is a testament to your inability to actually prevent ganks.

I mean all you can do is whore on CONCORD killmails for ships who will be killed by NPCs anyway. I don't believe for a second that you will actually shoot if the looter is in something else than a noob ship. You will probably start crying fo NPC assistance against suspect targets or something.

Actually this would be the best thing to do, good idea.

How?