EVE General Discussion

Maybe, but until they do so I will happily dunk every miner I am able to dunk. So far every nerf only made them more confident and they grew even fatter.

The amount has nothing to do with it. There have been multiple "EVE is Dying" threads on the front page since I started playing in 2008. I can't vouch for before then, but I'm willing to bet it was that way all the way back to the start.

Lest we forget, in the front of The Second Decade Edition book, there's a quote from the Beta that reads: "This game will be dead in six months. Mark my words."

If you have a requirement that a game must have a significant "update" that is a sea change from the previous build (a requirement wholly invented by the so-called playerbase, btw) and someone is foolish enough to accept that as law and then tries to fulfill this pie-in-the-sky (totally off the scale unrealistic) demand, then of course the game you end up with, after a few such "updates" will not resemble what you began with. After all, you CHANGED IT. GEEZ.

The more I read these "you ruined the game" or "what would make this game perfect" posts, the more I'm convinced what is needed is a psychiatric screening...(wouldn't hurt to have that for a few....okay, no politics today.) From what I gather, the entire game is supposed to be reworked and upgraded in some way. No thought whatever is given to the obvious expense of maintaining an operation that can actually do something like this.

The main factor, if you folks have been playing all THAT long, that gets left out is - how high have all prices risen everywhere in this intervening time? How can CCP be on this imaginary island where production costs haven't practically doubled since the first build of the game? How high has your sub for EVE risen? To live in your world, you'd be paying at least $45 a month (PER ACCOUNT and NO PLEXING) to even claim to have the standing to make such demands. But, guess what. You AREN'T paying that. (If you are actually paying with money LIKE ME) you're still paying the same amount as when you began.

You take all the "ideas" you "gaming experts" spew out over the course of a year, and quantify them in terms of development costs, each "update" you imagine is the equivalent of building an entirely new game, the cost of which has risen right along with the cost of your ham sandwiches and lattes. By now, to meet this expectation, CCP would have spent $75 million USD EASILY. I see NO nod, tip of the hat, gesture toward THIS. All I see is demand piled upon demand piled upon demand.

We get fifteen paragraphs of "why I'm the expert here" then two paragraphs of "I don't care what it costs (obviously since I didn't MENTION IT), just give me this....I deserve it." It's not surprising, the great project that was supposed to save us from all the MMOs developers imposed agony "Star Citizen" is bogged down so much in crowd funding, they haven't gotten around to developing a game. (There are also rumors law enforcement is investigating the shakers and movers of that project for misuse-age of funds. Your cavalry i$n't coming!)

Hell yeah, EVE has changed. You begged for it. You clamored. You expected. You created this artificial "need" for "games" to update every three months just to keep you happy paying the same amount as though all this effort is OWED to you. Now you have what you asked for, you don't like it. Unbelievable. You sound like the Entitlement Generation. Wait....

I have congratulated several people on their volunteering the money to launch some of these fabulous "updates" they gin up in their infallible imaginations while they shower, then eat their ramen dinners. How generous to volunteer to pay! Guess what! Right. NO money was forthcoming...just another "great idea".

If it wasn't for you people insisting a game has to have a major update every three months, you'd still have your EVE.

Suck it.

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I suggest you to come out of h shell. One day attacking miners will be prohibited. I can bet on it. This slowly goes into Orwelian future. So there is no problem really.[/quote]


very very probable

Ok, ok I will try to behave.

you unsubscribed but still use an alt on the forums to give advice you're like the weird ex girlfriend that wont go away and continues to try and be friends

Unfortunately, I slogged my way through the entire thing. I'm not proud of it, however, I do think everyone deserves a decent hearing before being totally ignored as having nothing significant to add.

Oooo, posting in an EVE is dying thread, July version.

"We don't like Change! Keep it the same!" = EVE is dying

"The game has to change to be fresh and modern!" = EVE is dying

"CCP has nerfed the play styles into irrelevance!" = EVE is dying

"This isn't WoW! Keep it different!" = EVE is dying

Yeah, pick your reason, you can make your case about EVE dying. "Water is Wet!" = EVE is dying... see what I mean?

Look folks, EVE will die when the subscriber base no longer generates enough profit to pay for the game. It's a simple analysis that even an 8 year old with peanut counting skills can do (I wouldn't trust the math from the common core kids). You guys trying to read the tea leaves should spend all that energy and time thinking up ideas to keep the game fresh for YOU. You are the primary driver of the game. Don't wait for Momma bird CCP to come back to the nest and feed you.

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There... now we have another 'summer of rage' going. Everyone happy?

Logging in to see this threads has now become a hobby.

Focusing on just this part. No. They cannot hide losses from investors this way. Investors can still say, "We'd like to see the books." And if CCP said, "No." That would be Bad™.