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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#41 - 2016-07-12 10:45:17 UTC
This thread just continues to amuse

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#42 - 2016-07-12 18:37:22 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
Wow, this is so bad that nobody has even jokingly pledged 20 billion ISK. Shocked



Christ, Christ, Christ, sooo sorry







I want pledge 20bn

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#43 - 2016-07-12 21:14:11 UTC
Thanks! I feel much better about this whole thing now.

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Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#44 - 2016-07-13 20:50:12 UTC
I would give it a try if it was only about 10b. But there's just no way the OP can get 50 dudes aboard.
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#45 - 2016-07-14 09:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Skia Aumer wrote:
I would give it a try if it was only about 10b. But there's just no way the OP can get 50 dudes aboard.

It is either 50 dudes or few dudes with total of 500+ billion. As of now we are going for small number of people with much bigger values. Which means that we wouldn't require 50 or even 30 partners. Initially they all pledge minimum, upon progression some are willing to infuse more. Just check header for updates.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#46 - 2016-07-14 09:19:52 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
Wow, this is so bad that nobody has even jokingly pledged 20 billion ISK. Shocked



Christ, Christ, Christ, sooo sorry







I want pledge 20bn


Listen Cumberbatch, you want to hear it out or you will keep "sarcasming"?

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#47 - 2016-07-14 18:17:33 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:


Listen Cumberbatch, you want to hear it out or you will keep "sarcasming"?



Nah, it's ok - I think your scam is quite apparent. "Sarcasming" is much more fun, thanks

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#48 - 2016-07-14 18:21:47 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:


Listen Cumberbatch, you want to hear it out or you will keep "sarcasming"?



Nah, it's ok - I think your scam is quite apparent. "Sarcasming" is much more fun, thanks



Surely, I can call you a scammer and that should be enough as well, because who needs evidence, right?
But hey thanks for pushing that abstract thinking forwards, we have little of that in here anyway.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#49 - 2016-07-14 18:36:17 UTC
A little present from Detective Norn


Quote:
because who needs evidence, right?




There you go

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#50 - 2016-07-14 21:12:53 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
A little present from Detective Norn


Quote:
because who needs evidence, right?




There you go


Yes sure, that evidence... are undercover cops crooked when you catch them during undercover and say that they are criminals? They can be, but the fact they are undercover doesn't mean they are crooked nor does the opposite.

Also I don't particularly care because in your narrow understanding scamming is used only to scam, right? Because if it is so, than double spy agents are a myth. Or maybe you just want to defamate me because you both narrow thinker and interested in doing so, however considering that you are prone to sarcasm I must say that possibility of interest is higher than that of narrow view on things.

Thanks for bumping.

Yes yes, many words. Headache, headache everywhere.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#51 - 2016-07-14 21:38:01 UTC
Quote:
Or maybe you just want to defamate me because you both narrow thinker and interested in doing so, however considering that you are prone to sarcasm I must say that possibility of interest is higher than that of narrow view on things.



Quote:
Defemate (v.) - to defame one and to defecate simultaneously




I think you're doing that quite successfully on your own, without any intervention on my part. Carry on defemating!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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The Fukuzawa
New Eden Trade Group
#52 - 2016-07-15 03:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: The Fukuzawa
Clowns of the MD forum (you know who you are), until you have solid evidence of scamming or venture failure, you really should keep your thoughts to yourselves, unless they are constructive.

I know it's hard, but just try.



BTW, Lizzypoo, I'm still waiting on you to dig up some evidence... Good luck squeezing water from a rock you clown.

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If you already assume we are scammers without looking at what we offer objectively, go ahead and F*** off.

Thank you, that is all.
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#53 - 2016-07-15 07:12:59 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
... are undercover cops crooked when you catch them during undercover and say that they are criminals? They can be, but the fact they are undercover doesn't mean they are crooked nor does the opposite.


In fact they are, if they are doing crooked things while undercover. Of course I can't speak for every legislation in the world but I think most civilized countries are in agreement on this one. There were thoughts of granting them some leeway/leniency in allowing certain misdemeanors. But just imagine you are a mobster suspecting one of your underlings to be an undercover cop. Would you make him commit any misdemeanor included in a sanction free list or would you go for something just outside this field. I think the answer is clear and that's why undercover cops are subject to the same rules as mortal men.

Of course I also wonder what kind of police work you were doing by posing as a scammer. I'm sure the insights will help you in becoming a master trader.
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#54 - 2016-07-15 08:26:23 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
... are undercover cops crooked when you catch them during undercover and say that they are criminals? They can be, but the fact they are undercover doesn't mean they are crooked nor does the opposite.


In fact they are, if they are doing crooked things while undercover. Of course I can't speak for every legislation in the world but I think most civilized countries are in agreement on this one. There were thoughts of granting them some leeway/leniency in allowing certain misdemeanors. But just imagine you are a mobster suspecting one of your underlings to be an undercover cop. Would you make him commit any misdemeanor included in a sanction free list or would you go for something just outside this field. I think the answer is clear and that's why undercover cops are subject to the same rules as mortal men.

Of course I also wonder what kind of police work you were doing by posing as a scammer. I'm sure the insights will help you in becoming a master trader.


Well, what here is called scam nothing but one of many ways to check the market. If, obviously, people fall for simple scams they will surely be just a sheeple following the market trend which is needed for successful completition of the operation. Considering that some traders do not consider a scam a probe into player's behaviour but rather a low level approach to making money in eve, they won't be a problem either. Those who wish to learn and teach - will come, those who think they know - will perish. Too much pathos, but you get the idea. Besides, the cop is an analogy and a story from people I know.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#55 - 2016-07-15 12:00:14 UTC
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#56 - 2016-07-15 12:09:20 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
Clowns of the MD forum (you know who you are), until you have solid evidence of scamming or venture failure, you really should keep your thoughts to yourselves, unless they are constructive.

I know it's hard, but just try.



BTW, Lizzypoo, I'm still waiting on you to dig up some evidence... Good luck squeezing water from a rock you clown.



Good to see you retained your sweetness and cordiality during your vacation sweetie, we missed you!

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William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#57 - 2016-07-16 11:20:34 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#58 - 2016-07-17 17:50:32 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:

What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.




TL;DR - the projects that I create are only scams if suckers fall for them

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#59 - 2016-07-17 19:01:24 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.



"I am totally not a scammer, I am doing economic darwinism, honest guv"

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William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#60 - 2016-07-17 19:11:09 UTC
Two more traders are in for another 30+B ISK. Wew see how scammy I am.

Wow much scam, so much scam I dont know hwo is scamming who at this point. Lol
Keep bumping.

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