EVE General Discussion

I was really put off by CCP endorsing the Church of Latter Day Saints in station. I thought Eve was fairly secular historically. The religion in game is fairly vague and fantasy-oriented. This was a real world church being plastered all over the walls of the station every few minutes. What's going on? The Mormon church is garbage, I don't want to have anything to do with it. My friends and family have been abused by the church. There's a lot of people who would be very offended by this. People have had their lives ruined by the Mormon Church. They're a bunch of bigamists who have completely destroyed Utah. The problem is they have all this money and they can't do anything with it because everything they touch turns to poison. For a while they were managing hospitals but they had to get out of that business because they were terrible at it. Someone at CCP must support the Mormon Church. They should at least have the courtesy to cloak it, like "Quafe" or whatever as a stand-in for meth.

Allowing the Church of Latter Day Saints to be advertised sets a terrible precedent and it should not be allowed.

The thing is I cannot help but feel like it is no accident. You know?

Oh, I've heard that line before. Sounds like a troll getting ready to hide behind their little "ISD disclaimer" the forums are known for.

I hope you're talking about the banner ad in the station because this is a valid concern any paying customer would have - just the same as if the Catholic Church or ISIS was allowed to advertise openly in stations, people would be offended, others will take offense to this.

I don't go around advertising *my* religious beliefs in game and I certainly don't expect them to be shoved down people's throats on the walls of a game they pay real money for with a historical precedent for secularism. This conversation will go elsewhere if not here, and so will subscriptions.

It's running in stations right now, just go look. They even updated it to be nicer looking. My husband has completely stopped wanting to play Eve because of it it's a huge turnoff to people who were systematically abused by that organization.

I'm not playing right now. Get a screenshot. Not that hard.

Uh, okay, so I logged in and saw the ad, and it's for a player-run corp. It's also not called the church of latter day saints, it's just called "Latter Day Saints". There are three corps in game with this phrase in the name, and in case you haven't read the EULA, this isn't a breach of it. Nor does it mean that CCP endorses the church of latter day saints. You are overreacting to someone having some harmless fun, and Malcanis is right, you got triggered hard.



What? There's nothing immersion breaking about human religions still existing in a human future. The Amarr Empire's religion is in fact an extension of classic Catholicism.

OP is enraged by the rotating in-station advert having showing one for "Latter Day Saints" a corp.

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Corp information suggests said corp has nothing to do with any real-world religious organization.

OP maybe needs to be a little less over-sensitive.

Are you telling me that the phrase Latter Day Saints can only be exclusive to the Mormon faith?

Mate, you're taking your secularism way too far, and need to chill. I'm an atheist and a strong believer in and fighter for secularism in all public things, but you're really reaching. That, or you're trolling. Either way, you've gone full potato on this one.

Yes that's exactly what it is. And they've clarified *Joseph Smith* just to eliminate any possibility of error. The Mormon Church *invented* the term. It's what they are *officially* called. There is no other meaning for Latter Day Saints. Even if you *invented* one to prove a point it wouldn't make a difference because that is how they are known, and they got there first. They've made hundreds of millions of dollars under that name. "Mormons" is just a nickname.

If you had a corp named Microsoft or Catholic Church or Electronic Arts or Amtrak you wouldn't mistake them for someone else if they showed up on a billboard in Eve just because it is a video game? Tell that to a court you know it wouldn't fly. And I'm not buying that Latter Day Saints has nothing to do with the corporation religion of the same name.

Honestly though, at the end of the day, for you to take a corp name and link it to CCP endorsing what that name may or may not realistically represent, that's some proper mental gymnastics right there. I have a corp on an alt called Electric Shock Ministries. Does CCP endorse electric shock therapy as well now?

Never go full potato.

You're an opinionated, Im sure of that, obviously you have never had any dealings with the Mormon Church. They ruin people's lives and I don't want to financially support their godamned message in any platform, whether it's a fantasy romance novel about Joseph Smith and his 50 wives or a fantasy sci-fi game set in the future.

Fiction or reality, I don't want any of my money going towards their pathetic crap.