EVE General Discussion

Doc would assume, that once a threshold amount of active players were occupying all the regions you mentioned was common, that CCP would increase the size of the universe.

Given there are 1/3 as many online players now as there were when EVE's PCU peaked, making more space is probably not on CCP's roadmap.

Firstly, Shattered space says more regions have been added, and the roadmap plans adding more space already

Secondly more regions are meaningless.
Content inside the regions is what actually matters.

Also read the Lore, and that will explain why we aren't magically leaping thousands of systems a day.

The current roadmap for the game still ends up with player built stargates that provide access to new parts of space and with, according to CCP Seagull, new mechanics.

So it's coming, eventually.

By current rate of development, which is pretty close to matching the roadmap indication they gave us, about 2 years actually. They have to introduce all the other new types of stations first, of which I know we have at least 2 more planned this year, then 2 more next year I think before we get to Stargates.

To me its not the expanded universe thats the issue its the rate at expansion. In the first Eve as player count increased we reached out and went looking and exploring in a brand new universe, no data on it or at least not much was known. So we flew by the seat of our pants like the first barnstormers did when flight was brand new. This expansion and settling of systems took many, many years to do. Then the major expansions like wormholes came along that added the most systems. These again were awe inspiring new playgrounds to settle and Eve players did this. What occurred was that the dissemination of information at the time was a LOT faster and more efficient and the player count was also a lot higher and this led to a settling movement that lasted a MUCH shorter time period till saturation of systems.

Given that 3rd party development as well as dissemination of websites and other information sources like youtube and now the most current, Twitch, are out there any really "new" space will have a much shorter settlement lifespan imo no matter how big of an expansion it is.

Ironically the easier expansion is to make the known systems "larger" by allowing travel beyond the outer fringes of the planets and celestial bodies.... but... who knows if CCP would undertake such a project or what actual "new" content they would come up with. Yet the idea itself is more intriguing and easier to do than making more systems of the same ilk.

I will always be an opponent against the speed at which information disseminates in this game. With knowledge being power and stagnation being the ultimate system entropy with perfect information dissemination the information channels available to players are also just as much a key metric to "fun" and "unknown", those in many situations for human beings are synonymous, as any nerf or buff could ever be. But again thats just me and what do I know.. Im just a "minor"( yes, yes that is a typo and an inside joke.

I would like wormholes leading to temporary, randomly-created systems that someone could day-trip. But unlike normal wormhole systems, the wormhole to this system would only last a day. If you're not out, you're stranded forever (until you pod yourself). This should lead to REAL exploration (i.e. discovering unknown systems).

As it is, wormhole space is almost just like null/low, just with random stargates.

Haven't you heard? Now physicists can tell you just how big this infinite span of universe is. They also can tell you just how many galaxies are in this infinitely numbered set of galaxies comprising this limitless universe. What they fail to realize, to keep their jobs there has to be something left yet to be discovered. (Physicists really aren't suited for lawn care work, unlike most high school dropouts.)

I would love to be able to jump in a ship and just travel and spend a few hours exploring where no one else has ever been. Maybe find a good system for my corp/alliance. Claim it. etc. I thought WHs were going to be the answer to this but they really arent as appealing to most people as they seemed. And WHs are everywhere and jump around a lot which is unappealing to many.

The problem with adding more systems and making space feel like space is everyone is spread out. Being spread out to much is bad thing( try playing eve on sisi, it gets boring pretty fast unless you are trying to test something). So you need to keep people together so they are forced to somewhat interact with each other.

I think how they should add systems, rather than do it in big blobs like they did with wormholes, is add a few at a time. The game or devs create up to half a dozen systems a month that can be discovered only from null or certain null systems. Until those systems are discovered and officially added to the network( via player built stargates) no new systems are created. In that way you might get an extra 10-100 systems added to the game a year. The devs can control how many systems are available this way depending on if players are getting to spread out or to tightly packed.

Not sure if bad phrasing or what, but it's ~2/3rds, the PCU was up around 50k for a while and now it's down around 32-33k, hardly 1/3rd of the players we used to have, but definitely a drop.

I was in favour of dynamic security status for systems while I was hunting in lowsec. Then I needed a stable jump route. Now I'm not so sure.