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WHY IS CALDARI SPELLED CALDARI??

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#41 - 2016-07-13 12:40:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
John Volan wrote:
I never cease to be amazed at the number of troll threads spawned by General Discussion.


This would have been a legitimate thread to have if it were posted on EVE Fiction.

I swear, if it were up to you guys, EVE would be boiled down to a War of Tanks styled space ship simulator with Hello Kitty Svipuls everywhere. We're all nerds here, and calling someone out for having an healthy interest in the fictional backstory of EVE (and all its inconsistencies and parallels to real world aspects) is a pretty dumb double standard.


So like "Universe of Tanks" then?

If the A-Team can fly a tank, so can we. Big smile


Talwar, the solar powerd tank... Roll


Ok, it looks a bit more like an old ironclad, but you get the picture.

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Memphis Baas
#42 - 2016-07-13 13:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Tell CCP to take the C from Caldari and the K from Inter-Stellar Kredits (ISK) and flip them, because both words "Caldari" and "Kredits" are ridiculous.

And then they can design a new logo for the Kaldari State, based on concentric K's instead of C's, and replace it on all the artwork and the ships in-game. And switch their "modified euro currency symbol" and use it for the ISC "credits" so a currency symbol represents a currency, not an in-game faction.

Take a hint from WoW, CCP! Their factions, Horde or Alliance, aren't represented by $ or other currency signs, modified or not.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#43 - 2016-07-13 13:46:42 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Tell CCP to take the C from Caldari and the K from Inter-Stellar Kredits (ISK) and flip them, because both words "Caldari" and "Kredits" are ridiculous.

And then they can design a new logo for the Kaldari State, based on concentric K's instead of C's, and replace it on all the artwork and the ships in-game. And switch their "modified euro currency symbol" and use it for the ISC "credits" so a currency symbol represents a currency, not an in-game faction.

Take a hint from WoW, CCP! Their factions, Horde or Alliance, aren't represented by $ or other currency signs, modified or not.



/me takes a shot.

Am I winning the sarcasm drinking game?

--Tipsy Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Caen Raviene
The Affiliation
#44 - 2016-07-13 19:31:17 UTC
This is just further verification of how far the State's education system has declined since separating from the Federation.

It's spelled C-A-L-A-M-A-R-I squiddy! Pirate
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#45 - 2016-07-14 00:49:01 UTC
We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources).

Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name.

(Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw).
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#46 - 2016-07-14 03:19:27 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources).

Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name.

(Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw).


Holy ****, I'm signing up for that. Can I submit Napanii documents with an English translation?

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#47 - 2016-07-14 06:21:53 UTC
It would look like we're trying too hard to be cool with a K. Or edgy. It would look like we're trying to be something, when we could achieve the same look effortlessly just by showing up.

Then you'd have to consider the phenomenal amount of litigation, paperwork, and rebranding that would undoubtedly follow. Nobody has time for that.

Also, I'd need a new top. That sounds like effort.
DeODokktor
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
#48 - 2016-07-14 11:24:24 UTC
When they came to New Eden and settled the world they called it Caldari, but those hip generation that went out in space tried using K's everywhere. They think they are kool using krap like that, but kommon knowledge says they should kut it out kause it's konfusing.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ great film to explain this behavior.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2016-07-15 00:05:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Neph wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources).

Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name.

(Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw).


Holy ****, I'm signing up for that. Can I submit Napanii documents with an English translation?

Sure, you can submit anything that interests you. There's a category for stuff that fits directly into the official lore, and another one for anything at all. So far, though, no entries that were like scholarly treatises have won a prize. The prize winners were all stories, with a plot. But you never know.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#50 - 2016-07-15 04:04:39 UTC
Well if "CH" is a more common theme you could argue that it used to be spelled "Chaldari", still pronounced the same, but teh gallente wanted to make it their own and simply shortened it. It goes with the gallente theme of assimilating other cultures and ideology in the lore and a direct insult to the Caldari as a whole over the invasion and hostile take over of their space.

Just off the top of my head really.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Warrior AgainstEvil
Doomheim
#51 - 2016-07-15 04:09:45 UTC
Only if I was high or in a super chill mood would I ever give a damn. I am guessing the OP is the former at the moment.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#52 - 2016-07-15 04:54:20 UTC
Warrior AgainstEvil wrote:
Only if I was high or in a super chill mood would I ever give a damn. I am guessing the OP is the former at the moment.


I can neither confirm nor deny these accusations.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Jean Luc Clermont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2016-07-18 09:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jean Luc Clermont
Normal Neph,

Your posts are pretty cool and I enjoy reading them

But... what happened here?

You gotta have way to much free time on your hands

My guess however, in terms of Lore, i would think it's just langauge evolution.

I'm from England, a name devived from the Angle's which in turn is came from the Romans (i think) referring to the blond, blue eye race that they found here and call Angels.

which is why the French use "Ang" and not "Eng"

(like most European countries in fact)

p.s. Gadget Helmsdottir...

ISK is ISK cos that is the currency in Iceland...
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#54 - 2016-07-18 13:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Jean Luc Clermont wrote:

p.s. Gadget Helmsdottir...

ISK is ISK cos that is the currency in Iceland...


Think you may have addressed the wrong person here.

Jean Luc Clermont wrote:

I'm from England, a name devived from the Angle's which in turn is came from the Romans (i think) referring to the blond, blue eye race that they found here and call Angels.


This is a bit jumbled. Those Angles (along with Saxons and Jutes) came to Britian from Frisia (Belgium/Holland) after the Romans more or less left the Isles to their own devices. However, one of the (if not THE) earliest depictions of the Anglo- name was used by the english monk, Bede, who may have applied the moniker for the reason stated above.

Guess what my minor was for my undergrad Smile

--Gadget

Edit:
Mind you, I'm not disagreeing with the main part of your post. Thousands of years of isolated language drift. No one speaks English (or any other Earth language) at all.

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#55 - 2016-07-18 22:47:54 UTC
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ISD Alliance
#56 - 2016-07-18 23:46:57 UTC
I've removed an off-topic troll reply and two quoting it.

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