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a few things i would change. my little things post.
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Peppermintstix
Exsilium Militaris
#1 - 2016-07-11 18:44:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Peppermintstix
1. Allow us to change the keybindings on fighters.. i really want to press F again to get fighters to attack with the basic attack.


2. Give players wallet divisions and allow us to set where money goes... (same with corp wallets). so for example any money i get from ratting goes to wallet A.. any player donation i get goes to wallet B... any time i buy something from the market it comes from wallet C, any time i sell something on the market it goes to wallet D.


3. Transferring of citadel's outside of alliance. I really dislike that they allow any director to instantly transfer a citadel from the corp your in to any other corp in the game. i would like to see changes done here.

A. First we disable all instant transfers to corporations outside of the alliance you are currently in, you can only transfer inside your alliance instantly, just like Conquerable stations were.


B. If you wish to transfer the citadel outside of alliance quickly, then you can do like we used to do and bring in a transfer corp... this allows you to instantly transfer your citadel and then allows that corp to leave and rejoin its alliance, in and out in a little over 48 hours.


C. if you wish to transfer it outside of your alliance without the transfer corp then give it a 8 day waiting period. just like now you open up a window, pick the corp you want to transfer to and once you start the transfer a mail would be sent to all people who have items inside the station as well as the directors of the corporation who currently own the station and the alliance executor. If the citadel gets reinforced during the transfer window, the transfer stops and at any point a CEO or director can stop the transfer. just like at any point they can stop a decommission

Example mail:

"Peppermintstix has initiated a transfer of control of the citadel named "troll house cookies" Located in VFK-IV."

"After 8 days the citadel control will be transferred to [insert corporation name here] member of [insert alliance name here] , after this time you may not be able to dock, please get your items moved to safety before the transfer is complete"

A Mail will also be sent if the transfer is stopped in anyway aswell.




4. We have warp core stabs, i think we should have a low slot mod that helps to counter webbing... so just like warp core stabs.. each mod you put on your ship lets you "ignore" one web.. so if you have 2 of these mods on your ship.. the first 2 webs don't effect you. I would give these the same draw backs as a warp core stab, as well as a -10% speed drawback.


5. every time we get a bounty from rats it pops up in our damage notifications area.. i would rather have a window i can open and just see.. in real time the total isk pool im due next tick.


6.More corporation wallets and more corporation hangers.


7. Allow Corporation directors and CEO's the ability to mute their members in alliance chat.


8. when probing you have pinpoint formation and spread formation.. you cannot change these buttons... please allow us to be able to change them and relabel them.. so people can set their own defaults.


9. Rigs that reduce your signature radius. "energy signature obfuscation array" Reduces signature radius by 15% for t1 and 20% for t2.

since its percentage based, the large the ship the more effective it is...smaller ships wouldn't use em. mid range calibration so you can fit at least two t2 rigs of this kind.



10. Increase the number of corporation book marks to 1500 and introduce alliance level bookmarks, allow the alliance to have up to 500 of them.



i would like to hear feedback on this.

Edit: I added spacers so people could better see each idea.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-07-11 21:38:20 UTC
I suspect that if you want the benefits of a corporation wallet's divisions, you'd have to actually join one - there's no reason to give individual NPC players that, otherwise why bother with a regular corporation?

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Peppermintstix
Exsilium Militaris
#3 - 2016-07-12 06:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Peppermintstix
Bumblefck wrote:
I suspect that if you want the benefits of a corporation wallet's divisions, you'd have to actually join one - there's no reason to give individual NPC players that, otherwise why bother with a regular corporation?



Corporations should have more wallets then they already have and this won't take away from that, it allows for maximum organization.

And a lot of people can't or don't want to make a corp but still want the feature.

If they can add it for corps i don't see why 3 or 4 divisions for a character cant be done.
afk phone
Repo Industries
#4 - 2016-07-12 15:44:31 UTC
Peppermintstix wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
I suspect that if you want the benefits of a corporation wallet's divisions, you'd have to actually join one - there's no reason to give individual NPC players that, otherwise why bother with a regular corporation?



Corporations should have more wallets then they already have and this won't take away from that, it allows for maximum organization.

And a lot of people can't or don't want to make a corp but still want the feature.

If they can add it for corps i don't see why 3 or 4 divisions for a character cant be one.



You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2016-07-12 17:11:07 UTC
afk phone wrote:
...You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.


Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2016-07-12 18:07:05 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
afk phone wrote:
...You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.


Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

I sincerely believe this is actually the problem with the world in general.

Too much categorization and want of "tidiness" often does the opposite of what it is trying to achieve... prevent bloat and have comprehensible systems that anyone can use.
More than that, such system tend to fall into the trap of "it can only be used in this way" and eventually lead to "create more categories and rule sets to enforce and enhance the way we use it!"

This is going to sound like utter heresy to an OCD person... but sometimes it is better to keep things idiotically simple and mashed up so people (anyone) can devise their own systems.

How did you Veterans start?
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#7 - 2016-07-12 18:40:25 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
afk phone wrote:
...You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.


Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

I sincerely believe this is actually the problem with the world in general.

Too much categorization and want of "tidiness" often does the opposite of what it is trying to achieve... prevent bloat and have comprehensible systems that anyone can use.
More than that, such system tend to fall into the trap of "it can only be used in this way" and eventually lead to "create more categories and rule sets to enforce and enhance the way we use it!"

This is going to sound like utter heresy to an OCD person... but sometimes it is better to keep things idiotically simple and mashed up so people (anyone) can devise their own systems.


A little chaos keeps life exciting.
Cade Windstalker
#8 - 2016-07-12 18:51:19 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I suspect that if you want the benefits of a corporation wallet's divisions, you'd have to actually join one - there's no reason to give individual NPC players that, otherwise why bother with a regular corporation?


Tax evasion? Big smile

Seriously I don't think I know anyone whose made their own corp because they just had to have wallet divisions. They're an entirely organizational tool, so if it's easy to add those to player wallets then why not give them to them? They're not mandatory, just like Corp Wallet divisions, and it lets the people who want to be organized be organized.

That sort of gets to Shah's point. It's possible for things to become over specified and refined to the point that they're unusable outside of the framework they were refined to fit into, but I don't think personal wallet divisions qualifies as one of those things or even something moving in the direction of one of those things.

afk phone wrote:
You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.


I don't think anyone is forcing you to change how you play or live, so how about learning to respect others preferences and play-styles, hmm? Big smile
Martin Scorsazie
Liber8
Common-Denominator
#9 - 2016-07-13 04:34:25 UTC
I have multiple accounts setup with my bank account in RL. A savings account, and a chequing account, and a Long Term High Interest. Among other things, yet here you are arguing that the functionality should be limited and that individual players shouldn't be able to do that.

Seriously, you people are unbelievable. This isn't "Keep the game the same Discussion"
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#10 - 2016-07-13 14:56:41 UTC
Peppermintstix wrote:
If they can add it for corps i don't see why 3 or 4 divisions for a character cant be one.

Not a matter of if it can be done it is a matter of should it be done. There are only a few things that separate being in a player corp from being in an NPC and wallet divisions, separate hangers are some of those things. While I agree that wallet divisions for the individual character would be nice I cannot and will not support adding them to the game because they even further minimize the benefits of or reasons for even having player corps.

While CCP decides the ultimate fate of player wallet divisions may I humbly suggest the use of a spread sheet to handle this issue. You set up as many division as you want, transfer ISK and other assets between them when ever you want. If you want to get extreme with this you can do as a corp mate of mine and use Intuit Quick Books and write fake checks to and from your various divisions giving you a permanent paper trial of what you did.

elitatwo wrote:
Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

This is purely a matter of personal point of view. Albert Einstein is no doubt one of the most brilliant and gifted people who ever lived and according to the books I have read he was far from being OCD. Going to something I know for sure and that is my own life the few OCD members there are in my extended family are among the most unstable and the most difficult to deal with, now that might be easier to handle if they were at the top as far as IQ goes but sadly that is not the truth. In my job managing a commercial printing company the OCD members of the staff create far more problems than they ever solve. Added into this is the simple fact that they are the most difficult to get along with and they create the vast majority of the interpersonal problems myself and the owners have to deal with.

My opinion on the subject is that OCD people should not be catered to, they should be referred to and if possible required to seek counseling from certified professionals in how to deal with and how to control their OCD.

Cade Windstalker wrote:
Seriously I don't think I know anyone whose made their own corp because they just had to have wallet divisions. They're an entirely organizational tool

I can give you the character names of at least 5 people who have done this, they too suffer from OCD and forming a single character corp was the only way they could settle it all in their minds. Only they did not want / need just the wallet divisions they wanted the hangers as well, using hangers in separate stations was not good enough for them.

Wallet divisions and corp hangers are not simple organizational tools they are in fact tools used to control access to corp assets, that is their primary function in this game. As a character there is no one else that you need to restrict access to so there is no need to have wallet divisions especially when that can easily be done using other tools.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2016-07-13 17:33:50 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
...
elitatwo wrote:
Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

This is purely a matter of personal point of view. Albert Einstein is no doubt one of the most brilliant and gifted people who ever lived and according to the books I have read he was far from being OCD. Going to something I know for sure and that is my own life the few OCD members there are in my extended family are among the most unstable and the most difficult to deal with, now that might be easier to handle if they were at the top as far as IQ goes but sadly that is not the truth. In my job managing a commercial printing company the OCD members of the staff create far more problems than they ever solve. Added into this is the simple fact that they are the most difficult to get along with and they create the vast majority of the interpersonal problems myself and the owners have to deal with.

My opinion on the subject is that OCD people should not be catered to, they should be referred to and if possible required to seek counseling from certified professionals in how to deal with and how to control their OCD.

Cade Windstalker wrote:
Seriously I don't think I know anyone whose made their own corp because they just had to have wallet divisions. They're an entirely organizational tool

I can give you the character names of at least 5 people who have done this, they too suffer from OCD and forming a single character corp was the only way they could settle it all in their minds. Only they did not want / need just the wallet divisions they wanted the hangers as well, using hangers in separate stations was not good enough for them..


Difficult subject. Even though this is getting a little off topic, I would like to respond on the matter.

You said OCD as in Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and this is somewhat different from obsessive compulsiveness. People with OCD would be the edge case and they cannot function without counting everything at least 5 times, always having to do things at least 3-5 times to "be sure" they did it "right".
Obsessive compulsiveness on the other hand is different and you said you know some and they are unstable, which would indicate that they are have a difficult times with changes and emotions which makes them hard to get along with.

I think you aren't that far of with your opinion that they need counseling. Of course they do. As with bipolar disorder they need the right medication or mix of medication and counseling to be able to get along with other.

And since you brought up one of my favorite bright cookies Albert Einstein, I can tell you that if you could see that chaos I live in you would think, "oh my, that looks like Einsteins office".
In my case the obsessive compulsiveness means that only some things have an order but the rest is irrelevant because of my memory. For example my keychain has to be on the right and my phone in the left jacket pocket.
I made my obsessive compulsiveness my special work ability. Since I love working with servers obsessive compulsiveness helps me to determine immediately of something is wrong, which helped the company safe millions.
I was observing computer behavioral patterns since my dad had his first pc when I was 14. To this day I can see a problem or hear them in case of fans or disk drives.
Problematic is only when I am supposed to do second level support since I know things, I cannot grasp the idea of someone else does not even though it was in a magazine I read 17 years ago.
Put me in the server room and all your machines will run properly at all times and I will make sure that most hacking attempts will fail, since I will spot them before they can do any damage or get access to anything they shouldn't.

Okay that was a little long than I wanted but I do know of the unstable kind of people you speak of. I think that unstable is not a nice label since it will be most associated with someone about to go on a shooting spree in a middle school.
If I may guess, the obsessive compulsive people in your life wouldn't do that.

I hope that didn't sound arrogant or condescending because it is a difficult topic.

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Peppermintstix
Exsilium Militaris
#12 - 2016-07-13 19:46:56 UTC
Yeah so this has been an interesting discussion on personal wallet divisions, but saying relax or make a corp are honestly bad arguments.

People can't always make a corp because they are in one.


I don't feel like 4 wallet divisions for person people is going to break the game, if people don't use them, then they don't use them but it would help a lot of people sort there wallet out better.

Help them to save money etc.

IF they can do it for corporations i don't see why they couldn't do it for players.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#13 - 2016-07-13 20:37:58 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
afk phone wrote:
...You are too organized. Learn to relax. Try eating a random unsorted handful of jelly beans. (Don't count them before you put them in your mouth). Roll through a few stop signs (safely of course, but don't come to a complete stop). Put those unmatched sox in the drawer with the rest of them and see if they match up after the next laundry day. Put a fork in the spoon compartment in the drawer and then forget about it until tomorrow.


Thank you dear for your totally unnecessary explanation of obsessive compulsiveness. You could further educate yourself and learn that obsessive compulsiveness is what keeps gifted minds sane that would go insane otherwise.

I sincerely believe this is actually the problem with the world in general.

Too much categorization and want of "tidiness" often does the opposite of what it is trying to achieve... prevent bloat and have comprehensible systems that anyone can use.
More than that, such system tend to fall into the trap of "it can only be used in this way" and eventually lead to "create more categories and rule sets to enforce and enhance the way we use it!"

This is going to sound like utter heresy to an OCD person... but sometimes it is better to keep things idiotically simple and mashed up so people (anyone) can devise their own systems.


As someone who's sure he has at least a little OCD, likely more, that sounds more like it makes a lot of sense rather than mere heretical dribble. Touche, good sir.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Cade Windstalker
#14 - 2016-07-13 23:58:05 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
I can give you the character names of at least 5 people who have done this, they too suffer from OCD and forming a single character corp was the only way they could settle it all in their minds. Only they did not want / need just the wallet divisions they wanted the hangers as well, using hangers in separate stations was not good enough for them.

Wallet divisions and corp hangers are not simple organizational tools they are in fact tools used to control access to corp assets, that is their primary function in this game. As a character there is no one else that you need to restrict access to so there is no need to have wallet divisions especially when that can easily be done using other tools.


Okay, great, why does this mean that personal wallet divisions are a bad idea?

It's not taking anything away from anyone, it shouldn't even be hugely hard to implement (and if it is then the Corp/Player back-end code probably needs a rework anyways), it's not invalidating anyone's playstyle, and just because the majority of people won't use it doesn't mean it's a bad idea. The majority of people don't use 90% of the game.
Peppermintstix
Exsilium Militaris
#15 - 2016-07-14 16:59:28 UTC

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Not a matter of if it can be done it is a matter of should it be done. There are only a few things that separate being in a player corp from being in an NPC and wallet divisions, separate hangers are some of those things. While I agree that wallet divisions for the individual character would be nice I cannot and will not support adding them to the game because they even further minimize the benefits of or reasons for even having player corps.

While CCP decides the ultimate fate of player wallet divisions may I humbly suggest the use of a spread sheet to handle this issue. You set up as many division as you want, transfer ISK and other assets between them when ever you want. If you want to get extreme with this you can do as a corp mate of mine and use Intuit Quick Books and write fake checks to and from your various divisions giving you a permanent paper trial of what you did.



What are you even talking about... People make corporations primarily as a space guild.. to group up and do things together, to make a community.

And the people who do make corps for book keeping only do so because there is no other choice and further more eve already has a bad reputation as spreadsheets online.. Your argument is terrible because it forces to me use out of game programs to do something the game should already have in it....

If you think even for a second that giving characters 4 wallet divisions will in any way take away from corporations then you are not playing the same game i am. What it will do is give people more people freedom to do more things in the sandbox called eve.

Not everyone wants to learn how to do excel or buy quickbooks, and not every person has 5 accounts where they can use an alt to manage there money from an alt corp. Some people are in a corp they like and they shouldn't have to pick between leaving that corp or using quickbooks to manage there ****.