Ships & Modules

I did mention skilling into a regular raven first. I think its fine for a stop into a better ship and for your first battleship. I just didnt agree with going to the navy raven, as its more expensive and isnt as good as the rattlesnake. Instead i would stay in the regular raven a little longer( a month or two should be all you need depending on how many drone skills you trained prior and during raven training) then go into a rattlesnake.


My newbie im training into a rattlesnake gets about half the dps and 1/3 of the tank as my main who is nearly max skilled in sub caps. What i normally do when i want to skill a new character into a ship is create a t2 fitted version in eft at all level 5s. I then work on the skills eft tells me i need to make that fit work with all t2. Once i can do an all t2 version of that ship, i switch to my actual build which is faction/deadspace for some or all of the ship. I find it works well and keeps my training focused on the ship and fit i want to fly next. Then when im not training for a new ship/fit ill work on random combat skills that will improve combat performance.

I think I will just keep training skills for another month or 2 before stepping into a BS. I have listened to all the arguments for what ship to use and not to use. I think once my skills are better the Rattlesnake seems to be the way to go. So by the time i get to using it I should have enough Isk to put some better resist mods and T2 Rigs of some sort on it. I don't want to just buy my first expensive ship and loose it all because of a silly mistake.

Thanks again for all the info and tips

Aesgeir

The only dfference is the hullprice, why buy a raven ever if by spending 250mil more you get a vastly superior ship in every regard?

The buy a raven first thing is stupid, its actually easier to lose a raven then a rattler because the rattler isnt a piloting heavy ship like the mach or even the barghest, even with scrub skills it puts out enourmous dps and tanks a shiton. The raven tanks nothing nor is its dps even close to that of a rattler.


This isnt pvp where you have to actually be good to do stuff, its lvl 4s, watch a video of your mission and if you die you probably are braindead.


Lastly, the ravens damage comes from missile skills and the bs skill, so due to the role bonus the rattlesnake is vastly superior for newer players. A all 0 (i.e no skills at all, so just the base numbers) rattler does aprox. the same damage as a all V cruise raven, twice as much with actual skills, all while tanking a lot more.


So, just buy a rattlesnake, get a pith x type x-large booster (cause its like 80mil and with 1 mission specific hardener you tank 1k) and fit the rest however you like.


People always tell you that you need max bs skill to fly pirate bs and so on, you dont, if you can sit in the ship and it does more dps/ank then your previous one use it instead (for pve, for pvp you ought to have at least all IV).

You have several options when it comes to rigs and it depends both on your fit, how you want to play and your skill levels.examples:

1) I use t2 shield purgers which is for a passive tank. But i run sites and anoms exclusively in 0.0 solo. I also hate having to turn shield boosters on and off constantly and carrying cap boosters around( rather carry a few thousand more missiles)

2) Shield extender rigs and shield resist rigs are used for active tanks when the tank is more important than dps output( usually lower skill pilots). I dont recommend resist rigs for missions because you have to switch damage resist often, so you wont get the full effect of a resist rig many times. Note: shield rigs increase sig radius. On a BS this really isnt important. On a smaller kiting/speed tank ship such as a VNI this would be a big no no.

3) Drone rigs: Various drone rigs can be used depending on, again, your fit and use. Drone rigs have the drawback of using more CPU which can making fitting tight. To me, drone rigs are the least useful but i also do not use sentry drones. i use heavies instead as they have better damage application and tank far better.

4) Missile rigs: Various missile rigs you can use depending on your fit and preference. Missile rigs are used for more dps and better damage application of missiles and to increase the range of short range high damage missiles. I use cruise missiles as i dont like chasing rats around a deadspace to kill them and using torps for example requires you to be in their face. Which usually means they are applying full damage to you. missile rigs also suck more cpu which can make fitting harder.

5) Other rig options usually reserved for tight fit pvp ships or low skilled pve players are rigs that increase your PG and CPU, If you active tank, cap control circuit rigs may also be an option.

The best advice i can give you is use one of the two ship fitting programs( EFT or pyfa both have threads in this sub forum) and learn how to fit ships yourself. You will have a far better understanding of the game, ship capabilities and weaknesses, among a lot of other useful knowledge you gain from learning to fit your own ships. This is extremely useful if you ever pvp.

Much of the advice you get here on actual fits will be from eft/forum warriors competing to give the most efficient fit even though they rarely do the most efficient task at making isk( thus throwing the whole efficiency thing out the window). I learned early on that its better to create my own fits based on a rough idea of how others fit the same ship. I just customize the fits for what i am doing, how much isk i want to spend, and my playstyle( which when it comes to pve is quite relaxed and lazy).

The truth is there are as many right ways to fit a ship as there are wrong ways to fit one. Just like in my profession, carpentry, there are just as many right ways to build a house as there are wrong ones.

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