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New player w/ 90 days DCT, what kind of Alt?

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Nik Volsk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-07-10 22:27:14 UTC
I've been playing EVE for 3 months. I just renewed for 90 days + 90 days dual character training. I created an Alt to use the DCT, but I'm not sure what to do with this character.

So far, my main character's training has focused on Exploration and Cov-Ops with the goal of joining a PVP corp.

I'm making ISK on Data and Relic sites in null sec, selling loot in Dodixie. I guess I'm leaving ISK on the table, but I don't want to spend much time playing market games. Is there any point in having a Market Alt for someone like me?

I'm not ready to commit an Alt to mining, production, research, or PI. Maybe later. Not sure what my income and expenses will be going forward.

What kind of Alt would complement an Explorer and/or PVP main character? Scouting? Hauling? Multi-role? What am I missing?

Any suggestions?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-07-10 22:38:07 UTC
Im assiming this is for one account?
Scout alts are best on a seperate account, so you can.fly an expensive pvp ship ans not die to silly gate camps.
Logi is always a good thing to train , particularly if you can get logistics V.
Falcons are also a good ship to have in your tool box.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2016-07-10 22:48:52 UTC
Sooooooo... ask yourself the following: What do I want to do on my alt that I do not want to do on my main?


EVE is interesting in that no specialty locks you out from another specialty. "Classes" that are used in traditional fantasy MMOs are based on ships here (or no ships at all).

You main character can literally do anything it wants as long as it has the skills to do it.


So let me give you some ideas based on what I do with my main and alt characters.


My main (ShahFluffers):
- I PvP with this character almost exclusively (near max skill with almost all sub-capital ships)
- I run missions in low-sec
- I run anomaly sites in low-sec
- I wage war and general mayhem.

My First Alt:
- I mine
- I build
- I research BPOs
- I transport ships and equipment to my main character (wherever he may be)
- I do wormhole spelunking
- The occasional suicide gank
- I run missions
- I buy from the market hubs
- I keep all "mothballed" assets on this character (he can fly almost everything, but barely)

My Second Alt (note: this alt has almost no skills)
- I spy on "people of interest"
- I do "lol-PvP" to prove a point
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#4 - 2016-07-11 00:26:30 UTC
If your a null player, then its great to have a high sec alt. I have quite a few high sec alts. But they are most useful to me for shopping, moving stuff around high sec( my alliance deploys often and we are usually wardecced ) and supply my null characters when a JF service is not available.

I also use my high sec alts to do high sec pve ( usually exploration or anoms) on occasion and have them trained specifically for certain ships for such tasks and some day they might even be used to do solo pvp/ ganking/ baiting/etc. or who knows what else. I could probably make a small fortune between all of them on PI if i wasnt to lazy to set it up and maintain it.

Also, you will likely get far better prices on loot in jita( to the point its worth the trip), but i would check eveprasial to see the price difference ( buy price not sell for instant sells) between dodixie and jita.
Memphis Baas
#5 - 2016-07-11 01:50:42 UTC
90 days will get you approx. 5 million SP on the alt. And 5 million SP is sufficient for: market alt + T2 transports + PI (income = 3-400 million ISK / month, minimum effort). I know you said you don't want to get into PI, but you also don't know what you want to do, so this is just a generic alt that will get you some passive income, that can haul a bit more securely than with a T1 industrial, and save you a little bit on taxes.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-07-11 02:21:51 UTC
You can't go wrong with Trade/Hauling skills. It's nice to have a neutral character to do your restocking and logistics. Particularly if you PVP in lowsec where your security status will degrade and make trips to high sec difficult.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-07-11 02:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ergherhdfgh
Some things that you can train an alt for:

lighting cynos / covert cyons. For this you'll need to train for covert ops frigates and covert cynosaral field generators.

Scouting / intel gathering / exploration. For this you'll need covert Ops frigates and scanning skills as well as covert ops cloaking device.

Market / Hauling alt. The skills needed for this depend on what you want to haul and what your market strategy is. For example very different skills are needed for station trading versus setting up lots of smaller orders at mission hubs for example.

Planetary Interaction alt. Mostly just need PI skills for this as far as I know.

Industry alt. Don't need many skills to get started on this but where you want to go with it could change things a bit. Look through production skills to get an idea of what you want to train for in that skill tree.

another option is to use that alt to try something that you don't' want to divert your main for or do something that you don't want to do on your main. An example is I once created an alt for running pirate faction missions in null sec. I did not want to destroy my main's empire standings to run pirate missions. You could also do something similar with high sec ganking or low sec ass-hattery.

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aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#8 - 2016-07-11 02:27:11 UTC
I would train it for a pirate BS for incursions. A NM\macharial with faction\meta guns will get you in to most incursion community's. Or you can just train it to haul. The other options work best if you dual boxing.
If you go the incursion kind of route, you still have the options for missions and other pve content when you not in the mood to pvp
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-07-11 05:59:44 UTC
90 days can get you a competent PI alt with basic hauling skills and trade. If you manage to set up in a wormhole with good planets it's enough to keep both accounts plexed.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2016-07-11 13:09:39 UTC
Generally, don't make a new alt because there is a sale. Make an alt account when you have a definite use for one. There will be another sale later.

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-07-11 14:14:17 UTC
I believe dual account training is only for the same account.

Mine is set up so that I can do basic stuff in case of a wardec, some pi, mining, a bit of hauling for my main etc.

Nothing specific, just a jack of all trades type guy to keep me going when needed.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-07-11 15:04:47 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Generally, don't make a new alt because there is a sale. Make an alt account when you have a definite use for one. There will be another sale later.

There is currently, or at least was a couple days ago, a sale where when you buy 90 days of game time you get free 90 days of dual character training. You just get the 90 days you don't buy anything extra.

The way they make it look, it seems like it expires. I am uncertain as to if it does or not but it is made to look that way. I ran into this same dilemma on my account when I added time. So as not to waste it I started training stuff on an alt however I had no real use for the second character training.

Hopefully this adds some insight as to why the OP is asking this question. Typically my advice is that if you don't have a specific need for an alt don't start one. However in this case it's not really a choice.

If I am wrong on the SCT training time expiring I'd be happy for someone to correct me. I'm just saying that the way that they make it look on the logon screen it looks like you need to use it. I originally had planned on just letting it sit there incase I ever needed it.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-07-11 15:30:04 UTC
Will use it to level my banker alt to be ready for SP extraction, plus some scanning, industry and hauling skills. This is the maximum concession I will make to the alt business in EvE - the offer is unfortunately too good to be missed.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Valkin Mordirc
#14 - 2016-07-11 15:39:17 UTC
If your adding another toon on an existing account. I would invest the SP in trade skills, use it to make your purchases and handle all transactions.


Maybe dabble in actual trade and play the market.
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Nik Volsk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-07-11 18:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nik Volsk
Thanks everyone for your comments. To clarify a couple things:

1. I have one exiting account.

2. The sale was 90 days of game time + 90 days of dual character training for $38.85. The offer expired July 10. I needed to buy the game time anyway, so the DCT seems like a free bonus to me.

At this point a Market-Hauler-PI character is starting to make sense. I think I might like PI because I enjoy games like Sim City, etc.

I was thinking a Scouting Alt could work on the same account as my main Explorer/PVP character, switching back and forth between the two. Is that not a good idea? I'm not set up for dual boxing.

I expect these questions will answer themselves when I understand the game better and/or when I join the right corporation. But in the mean time I have 90 days DCT and the clock is running, so your suggestions are much appreciated.
Swoop McFly
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-07-11 19:05:59 UTC
I'm sitting in the same boat and started training an alt towards a Prowler. (T2 industrial that can warp cloaked)
Doing hauling on an alt is really useful, because you don't have to worry about things like war decs or staying highsec legal with your PvP character.

The T2 indu skill plan is only around 40 days though - not sure what I will do with the rest of the time. Maybe get some trade skills and invest some SP into tanking skills for a Mastodon.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#17 - 2016-07-11 19:56:23 UTC
Swoop McFly wrote:
I'm sitting in the same boat and started training an alt towards a Prowler. (T2 industrial that can warp cloaked)
Doing hauling on an alt is really useful, because you don't have to worry about things like war decs or staying highsec legal with your PvP character.

The T2 indu skill plan is only around 40 days though - not sure what I will do with the rest of the time. Maybe get some trade skills and invest some SP into tanking skills for a Mastodon.



Maybe train it for an interceptor, it makes a a decent hauler for small items like skill books. Just a thought though