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WHY IS CALDARI SPELLED CALDARI??

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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#1 - 2016-07-11 14:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
Everything suggests that 'Caldari' would be spelled 'Kaltari' or at least 'Kaldari'.

'C' is the second least used letter across all known Caldari words and system names. It occurs a total of 35 times, making up only 0.38% of the nearly 10000 characters known to be Caldari. This isn't counting the randomly generated names for Caldari toons, because I haven't found a way to export those yet.

The only less-occuring letter is 'F', which shows up 25 times, and get this: 'C' would be the least-used letter, except for all the derivatives of 'Caldari'.

Why the heck does your name not match anything else about your language?

CCP Falcon plz.

EDIT: I looked closer. Guess what? In all those other cases? 'C' never stands alone, it's always part of the letter 'CH'.
'Caldari' and its derivatives are THE ONLY INSTANCES of the letter 'C'. All other words contain 'CH'.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#2 - 2016-07-11 14:59:31 UTC
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#3 - 2016-07-11 15:09:37 UTC
I'm at a loss. Wat really summed it up perfectly...
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-07-11 15:11:28 UTC
The ope crowd are a big bunch of paint sniffing hippies , looks like one of them wandered out into gd.

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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#5 - 2016-07-11 15:17:16 UTC
If we go through all the Caldari system names and known words (kresh, Ishukone, bakukki, Ichoriya, etc) there are no words with the letter 'c' (not 'ch') in them, except the ones derived from 'Caldari'. The letter 'c' doesn't seem to exist in the Caldari language, but it's right there in their name.

Fake space language being wrong is serious business.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2016-07-11 15:18:56 UTC
When I die, I would like to go peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather did. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#7 - 2016-07-11 15:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
They did it because the Gallente spelled it Kaldarie.

To hell with those Gallente hippie scum.


Edit:
Though to be serious, I believe the planet (or maybe the system?) is named Caldar in Gallente. The name stuck after a few hundred years of being Gallente.


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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#8 - 2016-07-11 15:57:48 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
They did it because the Gallente spelled it Kaldarie.

To hell with those Gallente hippie scum.


Edit:
Though to be serious, I believe the planet (or maybe the system?) is named Caldar in Gallente. The name stuck after a few hundred years of being Gallente.


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I know the system is Luminaire, but I feel like Caldari Prime being known as Caldar is familiar... I'll have to look into that.

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Cristl
#9 - 2016-07-11 16:09:38 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
When I die, I would like to go peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather did. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-07-11 16:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Brokk Witgenstein
It's a modern day leftover harken back to times long past.

In ancient mythology, To Caldar would loosely translate to "to fa'gg up - ur g4y", as evidenced by for example the FalCon. HooKbill on the other hand has a proper "k".
Yarosara Ruil
#11 - 2016-07-11 16:43:42 UTC
TL:DR - CCP when making the worldbuilding for EVE created a faction who's ideology could be summed up with the Copyright symbol and named that faction Caldari, while at the same time, they used Finish/Japanese phonetics to create the fictional naming conventions of the language spoken by the Caldari, that being napanii, which seldomly uses C- sounds but uses K- sounds aplenty.
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#12 - 2016-07-11 17:04:43 UTC
Neph wrote:
Fake space language being wrong is serious business.


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Orla- King-Griffin
#13 - 2016-07-11 17:16:19 UTC
Who cares, caldari smell anyway.

Ah shite...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#14 - 2016-07-11 18:28:32 UTC
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#15 - 2016-07-11 19:21:57 UTC
http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=1354.0

If you want a list of the surnames for all the races they are here.


Might I suggest an impromptu Jita Monument shooting to give voice to the Caldari people about this travesty?Big smile

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-07-11 20:03:52 UTC
It's because the word Caldari evolved from the ancient earth word Calamari. You know, squid and all...


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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#17 - 2016-07-12 00:50:53 UTC
Bah, never mind these philistines OP. Agreed, seems to be a thing in the lore that makes no sense. If it were a film, it would be a 'continuity error.' Come over to EVE Fiction forum, we try to work this stuff out. It's kind of like theorizing about the archaeological record, or what really happened at the Tunguska event. Nobody can ever know for sure, but there's evidence to be weighed and examined.
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-07-12 01:05:23 UTC
I would assume it goes by the same rules as to why we call Deutschland Germany in America. There is probably lore somewhere that explains it.. Like when someone said it was under Gallenti control for awhile. But in reality Im sure it has something to do with how things are spelled in Icelandic.

The whole Germany thing has always confused me.

Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#19 - 2016-07-12 01:29:18 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
what really happened at the Tunguska event. Nobody can ever know for sure, but there's evidence to be weighed and examined.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#20 - 2016-07-12 02:35:27 UTC
Because. You can tell by the way it is.
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