Crime & Punishment

Oh hay, names and locations won't be mentioned to preserve the egos of the fragile. Easily sourced from kb anyway.

Last December or so i picked a 0.4 next to hisec and decided to make it my querencia since i had assets there from years before. Got 100 kills on newbro Ventures with Reapers fitted double scram. A few PVE bads and the odd local before things quieted down. After killing about 160 newbros, sending each 2m isk labelled KF is recruiting i was unimpressed by how none joined so stopped doing that.

Actually made more friends who had questions about how i landed on them so fast/precisely. Patrolling in a double-scram Prospect became the thing but mainly the aim was to scare off ambushers so i could quickly burn down PVE sites. Got 2 Stratios BPC, 2 Vigi BPC and a mountain of decryptors for the invention.

SO lost a cruiser to one of those insta-kill carriers, managed to bump a 2 week old thanny off undock and see him babble in local instead of corp comms by mistake, hail the carrier changes and skill injectors.

Then one day saw a 10-day-old tengu killing a clone soldier rat in a belt. Totally slipping, calmly fighting a cruiser rat. I thought: totally bait. This is someone who spent many spaec money on SP and ship to eat a 1m bounty rat? Maybe just testing it.

Few days later, newbro thorax derping around, making local look untidy, so i put neuts scram n web on muh snipan ishtar to go chase him off or wreck him.

OH HO Tengu and Legion appear and unleash a tiny dribble of dps onto me with faction drones. My ecm drones could shrug off one point at a time and the neuts capped out the thorax but they managed to keep me there for the 6 minutes it took their poorly skilled iWin ships to burn me down.

When i saw the faction drones i mentioned that they would never be good, to which was replied: not like you.

It clicked: here's some poor schmuck i squashed who has been buttherterated enough to go to the Mr Miyagi of P2W skill injectors to get me back. Multibox 2 strat cruisers and a bait thorax. Wow. Both T3 pilots under 2 weeks old. Both fly with T2 rigged T3 cruisers fitted with nothing but faction and deadspace.

I guess i applaud this as an option, since it means there's some extremely shiny lossmails out there to be had. On the other hand it's also the dawn of a more direct P2W eve than previously.

It's called being articulate and concise as opposed to prolix.
Thanks for your post, though, i guess.

Everything's ruined and I hate you.

+1.

If you have that kind of money, you're not paying to win Eve, you've already won it. And if you do that with a CC you're just an idiot the rest of us can extort, rob and scam. Or in other words, a Crime and Punishment comedy thread waiting to happen.

It's really no different than the character bazaar with a couple of exceptions (character age means nothing for instance). I just watch all the extractors and injectors getting blown up on Zkill and laugh.

Bought for, not sold for.

You've been able to buy SP a lot longer than that - either by PLEXing into a set of +5s or in the character bazaar. 2016 brought a difference of degree not kind.

So once again then, why were there riots in 2011?

Was all of EVE insane back then and we've weeded out all the insane people and become saner now?

Again - it is the *change* that is startling, not the fact that CCP is copying other games to rake in $$$



Also, if sp is *bought* for RL $$$ it means somebody is *selling*. It may not be direct, but it is still bought *and* sold. CCP just gets the $$$.

Also look at some of the shuttle losses lately and tell me again people arent RMTing it. Go ahead...

Burgess required things of the reader, always a big no-no but rewarding for whoever bothers. He also used a lyrical poetic method with words so that the sound resembled that being described, a pair of horses charging as an octopodius cacophony really brings that home, but lets RL livestock think he's just using hurrr big werds.
After 365 days of straight PVP i thought i'd join KF to fatten up in Dek and take it easy for a while. Then the biggest change to sov mechanics i've ever seen and the biggest RMT backed enemy force ever combined to start a scuffle.
FML as the kids say.
Every single day i've been in KF someone has blurted grrgons h8gons to announce their irrelevance.
Thanks for being today's.

These SP injectors tho.

Look. I have all kinds of problems with this company, but I'm not going to waste much time thinking about it or trying to change them. I think most of us realize they are a lost cause. When people are not complaining it's because they just don't care to waste their words anymore.

Secondly micro transactions on vanity items are something I love, so they lost two customers and gained one perhaps. The problem with CCP is they try to reinvent the wheel and do so in ways that disrupt the fun of others. When you make a change it needs to be good for the majority not a minority. Adding to the game in a way that makes someone happy but doesn't effect regulars is the best policy.

Aesop said when you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one. This is true but Cosmetic micro transactions hurt no one in the long run. They are optional. THings like fozzie sov ruin the play style of hundreds iff not thousands of players, it was a bad move. Same with skill injectors - it offers an unavoidable advantage, and adults with good paying jobs who have no sense of fair play are going to have to go for it. It ruins games, pay to play signals the death of a game in my opinion.

If I remember correctly, the jita rioters' motivation was not unrest at EvE potentially becoming a p2w scheme game, but an outcry over CCP's decision to use their resources to make a money shop instead of some tangible benefit to the game.

I want to say that the riot also demonstrated that CCP had intentionally let their hardware/software fall into a state of disrepair due to the server's poor performance during said event. I believe we got time dialation as an indirect result of that riot.
I believe the riot was also, partially, a protest of the lag infestation of the part of EvE that CCP praises most highly: the 1000 player battles.

I am more concerned about the ever growing stream of little changes (ore holds, no watchlists, drones don't auto-aggro by default, native hull resists, hard cap to align time, etc.) than I could ever be about buying and selling sp.

I will consider blowing the dust off my pitchfork when CCP adds social corps.

So they went to the highest bidder, who could become the highest bidder by buying PLEX with real-life money. More real-life money, more skillpoints.



As said; it's a difference of degree, not of kind - although of course the characters for sale were focussed on specific skillsets, because that's what people do.



If I see a 3-day old pilot in a T3 now I know it has lots of SP. Whether someone buys their skillpoints in bulk or a la carte, if they're flying an expensive ship, they probably-but-not-definitely have a lot of SP invested in it. No change there.

Everybody did not, of course, know that someone had purchased it, unless you're in the habit of writing down every name in the character bazaar just in case it turns up in Local at some point. From that point of view, the purchasers of skillpoints are better telegraphed in the new world - you can't hide a recent start date.



Bluster is rarely convincing.



You're in the minority not because the game has changed or the playerbase has, but because most players, old and new, recognise you could buy skill points with cash money in the "old EVE", too.