EVE General Discussion

Lower PvP cost will increase the amount of PvP, when PvP increases the amount of ships being destroyed increases, more ships being destroyed means more ships that need to be replaced, the more ships that need to be replaced the bigger the demand for minerals to make them, the bigger the demand for minerals the higher the price of minerals goes, the higher the price of minerals the more expensive ships are.

There is a reason that mineral costs are (relatively) constant.

What?

If lower costs would increase pvp, why isn't everyone out facing off in rookie ships?

The cost of ships doesn't reduce the amount of pvp. It's ego driven. It's much more personal a decision ingrained in personality.

1 Titan loss is upwards of 100 billion ISK, yet people put them into fights weekly. Other supers and regular capitals even moreso. That has more to do with the people than it does with the cost to build/replace ships.

Mining can be easily fixed.
What it needs, are mining links working like any other links.
Mining lasers working similar way to siege, and triage - you are sitting still without ability to warp off, but you get ehp boost.

It needs to be less afk.
Maybe some UI that will force you to re aim your mining laser on the rock, or mineral in the rock.

Perhaps you don't understand how economics works, if tritanium was 0.00000000000001 ISK all the other minerals would plummet to, meaning the relative price of nearly everything in eve would be lower and therefore relatively speaking, the value of isk itself would be different. It would destroy the mineral market for speculators, for everyone else the price of fish will be the price of fish, if someone builds a BS that now only costs 10 mill to produce, they can sell that at say 15-20 mill, all of a sudden everyone and their mum will be pvp'ing like crazy as rat bounties remain static. A mineral price crash might be what high sec needs to get people seeing more of eve. Has it every occurred to you that active players in eve has fallen due to rising prices and therefore the rise in PLEX prices, more people used to pay 440 mill for 90 days game time back in the day when online players could hit 40-50K continuous a day, mineral prices were much lower, Trit was like 1.6-1.8 isk a unit.

Add to this the price of PI won't change much, neither would moon goo materials, nor salvage. Minerals are not the only goods that contribute to production.

Why shouldn't capital mining ships be a thing? You can mine hulls with anti-matter/fighters already using dreads and carriers, there is no larger end game for miners other than creating a billion-gajillion mining alts.

You must not be a Rorqual pilot ... and I'm suspicious not a capital pilot either.

Imagine, you are a lone FAX triaged in an asteroid belt or anom, your sub-cap support fleet is un-armed, but don't worry because you have a flight or two of drones [that are easily eliminated by smartbombs or by just shooting them].

What could possibly go wrong, right?

I mean, cheaper ships means you have to work less to pvp. Either way the argument that capital mining vessels would trash the economy is rubbish.

I would pvp more if I didn't have to be worried about isk as much.

idk maybe at first, then people will wisen up.

I know it'll be met with hostilities, but I'd love to see not barges changed, but belts. Get rid of the static, repopulating belts, and replace them entirely with ore anoms that have similar respawn mechanics as ice belts, except instead of respawning in the same system, they respawn randomly in the region four hours after they get mined out.

One of the big changes this would potentially bring is greater immersion.

Instead of having a few to a couple of dozen belts in every system, where each belt is 50-60km across and takes just an hour or so to mine out, you could instead have fewer, but much larger belts spawning in anomolies that take up a whole grid. 10,000 km across.

You could potentially put several warpable points within a belt to make getting around not too painful and bring the benefit that all the miners across a constellation (if it was done at constellation level) would be spread out working their bit of the belt.

The potential is that brings people together in the sense that multiple mining activities would be occuring on the one grid, giving a greater sense of the overall activity going on in the game.

The downside being that a higher concentration of miners on a single grid would also lead to a higher concentration of people looking to shoot them, but the larger grid also adds an element of safety, and (heaven forbid), miners working on the same grid could start sharing intel, etc.

Overall, it's not a bad idea.