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Proposal: New Capital Class

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Daniel Essig
Descent.
Salty.
#1 - 2016-06-30 21:02:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Essig
Titans are currently the only ships capable of fitting a jump portal generator able to bridge subcaps of any size or type. I propose that CCP introduce a new capital hull class, could even be an industrial capital, that is capable of using a jump portal generator but has little to no self defense. Only larger fleet hanger, fuel, and ship maintenance bays making it the ideal ship for the nomadic people.

Name suggestions: Errant, Wayfarer, Vagrant, Gypsy.
Vanna Kjyshy
Hallowed Antiquity
#2 - 2016-07-01 09:05:22 UTC
If it could only portal industrial ships it would make it perfect ;)

(so it's not abused by oh so many combat fleets)
Clotoor Relaird
The Royal County
#3 - 2016-07-01 11:51:04 UTC
So you mean a Giant storage ship with a jump portal generator . Ithink this is a superb idea and with some refinement could be benificial to loads of roaming groups out t
Daniel Essig
Descent.
Salty.
#4 - 2016-07-01 17:29:41 UTC
Clotoor Relaird wrote:
So you mean a Giant storage ship with a jump portal generator . Ithink this is a superb idea and with some refinement could be benificial to loads of roaming groups out t


yeah that is basically my idea.
Daniel Essig
Descent.
Salty.
#5 - 2016-07-01 17:31:56 UTC
Vanna Kjyshy wrote:
If it could only portal industrial ships it would make it perfect ;)

(so it's not abused by oh so many combat fleets)


I don't think it would need to have this limitation, you just need to set it at a price point that makes it balance out. Also activating the portal should give you a 1 min weapons timer to prevent redocking etc.
Cyrus Arrat
NeoHazard
#6 - 2016-07-02 21:32:09 UTC
Daniel Essig wrote:

I don't think it would need to have this limitation, you just need to set it at a price point that makes it balance out. Also activating the portal should give you a 1 min weapons timer to prevent redocking etc.


I really like the idea of a ship that cannot be easily used to empower military fleets, but rather encourages new opportunities to far-roaming more-or-less-industrial fleets, while still offering great rewards to those highwaymen succeeding to track one down.

If indeed the ship is limited to transporting industrial vessels, it could aswell be granted some special abilities around cyno + bridge + wormhole interaction without making that an overly oppressive mechanic.
OwenJ
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-07-02 23:29:16 UTC
Vanna Kjyshy wrote:
If it could only portal industrial ships it would make it perfect ;)

(so it's not abused by oh so many combat fleets)



Allowing a Rorqual to use a jump portal generator to jump industrial ships would be cool
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#8 - 2016-07-05 12:36:32 UTC
OwenJ wrote:
Vanna Kjyshy wrote:
If it could only portal industrial ships it would make it perfect ;)

(so it's not abused by oh so many combat fleets)



Allowing a Rorqual to use a jump portal generator to jump industrial ships would be cool


+1

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S'totan
Adversity.
Hisec Miners
#9 - 2016-07-07 06:40:35 UTC  |  Edited by: S'totan
Daniel Essig wrote:
Titans are currently the only ships capable of fitting a jump portal generator able to bridge subcaps of any size or type. I propose that CCP introduce a new capital hull class, could even be an industrial capital, that is capable of using a jump portal generator but has little to no self defense. Only larger fleet hanger, fuel, and ship maintenance bays making it the ideal ship for the nomadic people.

Name suggestions: Errant, Wayfarer, Vagrant, Gypsy.


I would give you my vote if it can only bridge industrial ships and is limited to low/null sec. Perhaps an extended roll to the Rorqual. I do see this as a potential loss of the value of Jump Freighters as you could just bridge regular freighters(albeit a shorter distance). In reality, the problem would be, you could bridge a T1 Freighter, then jump with it, then bridge it again, eliminating the need of a Jump freighter.
SynthesisX
#10 - 2016-07-12 09:17:28 UTC
A nomadic band/fleet of EVE lower security space/ Anoikis industrialist explorers get a new ship to move them and their stuff around further and faster. Great! New content, new opportunities!

Of course eventually someone predatory, or just someone defending their local assets finds them, a conflict ensues, and you demand the intruders/ new arrivals have not even a little chance to defend themselves.

How heroic.

This is why EVE pvp in lower security space has earned such a bad reputation with new pilots, most refuse to even fly there. Pvp in far too many cases has devolved into the equivalent of sneaking up behind a defenseless pilot, then bashing their skull in. They never had a chance.

Look at the EVE solo pvp vids online, the skills required, the courage displayed, makes you want to fly and fight pvp in EVE. The pilot has to plan, and then react to quickly changing events to succeed against a dangerous target or targets that could also kill him in the fight if he makes mistakes or misjudges the threat. That is real PVP.

Should this new ship, have a limited amount of capability to transport combat ships? Yes. Should it carry only industrial ships? No, that is stupid beyond belief in a hostile environment.

Per fleet pilot one fitted cruiser for low sec, one fitted battleship that can only be launched for null sec, or some reasonable limitation of this type would allow pilots to have a fighting chance.

Are you really that afraid of pilots being able to fight back?

If so please justify it, so that maybe I can learn to understand your apparent birth right to be served only defenseless targets.
Mundi Comedentis
U.N.I.T.
#11 - 2016-08-20 12:47:51 UTC
I think of the main idea of a new class, an Idustiral Capital ship with the suggested portals and ect is Fantastic. I also like the nomadic use of it. the extended role of a Rorqual is also excellant.. i would like to see this idea talked about more and the council to seriously look at it.