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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#21 - 2016-07-06 00:25:36 UTC
Eli Stan wrote:
Satchel Darkmatter wrote:
but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE


I log in to be social with my fleetmates and the thrill of PvP. When activity is at a lull I plan and acquire new fits, scout around a bit, do some ISK-making activities to fund my habits, and plan future events.


OP, This is kind of the main point here - other people are what make the game worth playing.

If it was just me and spacepixels I would have quit a long time ago.

But every time I log it I am checking in with the rest of my "fleet," catching up on the latest events and/or plotting to commit murder and mayhem upon some hapless fools (who all too often turn out to be better at it than I am.)

Start reaching out in game to other folks.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#22 - 2016-07-06 03:14:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Roenok Baalnorn
Satchel Darkmatter wrote:
Hi all newbro here, I'm not a greedy person so for me amassing Isk is not something I feel like I need to do, I'm now upto around 3 million skill points and working on pushing my skills so I can get access to tech II modules in the various locations that my ships use, guns, shields etc.

As a result I have a skill queue that's well over a month long and I now find that even tho iv only been playing for I guess 3 million+ skill points worth of time(3 months?) roughly that I am login in checking my mail and logging back out.

This is the only MMO I have ever played and I have played a lot of them, where I don't wake up in the morning and look forward to logging in, I am waking in the morning and checking my phone to see if I can slot anything else onto my queue and that's it.

Every now and then I log in and check the corp recruitment chat for potential corp homes but finding one that fits has been an epic nightmare, Corps either want a min SP that I do not yet have, or they want me to move out to null and mine, honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie.

I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do.

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I HATE, the skill point system in this game, it sounds amazing on paper but I think in practice it just demotivates players to login and that cant be a good thing.


TL:DR: Stop waiting for eve to play you, and start playing eve.

Eve is unlike any other game you have ever played, i can promise you that. Ive played many MMOs in the last 20 years and not one holds a candle to eve. However Eve caters to specific types of players. What you would think of as "hardcore". Players that play with very little rules and guidance from the devs. Players that are cunning and ruthless. Players that are tacticians, analysts... players that do ( sometimes excessive) metagaming. Eve is like playing chess for your life blindfolded in the middle of a battlefield with artillery raining down, jets strafing you, and a battalion of tanks rolling your way when your use to playing checkers against your 10 yr old nephew on the couch while watching the big bang theory.

Stuff just doesnt happen in eve, you make it happen. Players mostly control the environment rather than devs and AI.Eve requires you to make an effort to play it. It requires interaction. If you need to watch tv,read a book, write your memoirs while playing eve, etc then you arent playing it properly or its not the game for you.

There are many things to do in high sec: The event going on you can piggyback on someone else doing the sites if they are to hard for you. Show up kill a couple of frigs and cruisers, warp out and back in if it gets hairy, continue until the others complete the site, get some bounty isk and event credit.

You can mine, run anoms, do data and relic sites( exploration) , combat sites( exploration), go through some wormholes( exploration), do missions, pvp, etc. Its up to you to make an effort and yes this game is much better in a corp with people of similar interest.

You could join eve university and they will teach you many different aspect of the game class style. red vs blue and do high sec pvp, learn how to gank from a merc /wardec group. be a pirate in low sec, do sov warfare in null as well as much of the stuff you can do in highsec, become a trader. Lots to do. Also there is a lot of corps that will take you with 3 mil SP. I was living in null at 1.5 mil sp. I just created a new character with about 1.5 mil sp and he can do loads of stuff and none of it is mining.

This game requires ambition, if you have none, you are not going to get anywhere or have any fun. You are also not going to market yourself well with" i can only bother to log in to add skills to queue"... you sound like a burned out vet but without all the experience that makes them somewhat marketable.

The most interesting thing in this game is pvp, it is what the game is centered around, especially null pvp. That is where all the action is, where all the thrill is. PVE in Eve is just a necessary function to make the game playable for pvpers without making it battleground style.

Eve players arent people who use google, eve players are people who INVENT google.They create, so get your ass in game and create some content, and quit waiting for it to be created for you. Better yet get in game and destroy someone elses content.
Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#23 - 2016-07-06 06:38:40 UTC
At the moment, I'm sorta taking a break from EvE for other RL stuff, but I still log in sometimes to check Spectre Fleet to see if they have anything going out! Theyre a great group to PvP with!

"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!

Falcon's truth
Kaivarian Coste
It Came From Thera
#24 - 2016-07-06 07:07:07 UTC
It's best to think of ISK as SP, since you can now directly buy SP with ISK. So if you're SP is too low, find different (and fun) ways of making ISK.

I generally live in low sec. The ISK is better, and the threat of PVP makes everything exciting. If you're bored in high sec, try moving to low sec. A low SP character can still run lvl 1 and 2 missions in low sec. You'll get paid more.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-07-06 07:59:58 UTC
Sometimes in Eve i feel like a fisherman.
Saw a 10 day old Tengu in a lowsec belt, who left before i could get the covops docked and reship to murderwagon.
So apart from the run of usual things there's also the promise of wrecking some player or NPC.
Eve has been very kind to me lately.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
MyLoudVoice
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-07-06 09:33:17 UTC

1/ Mine 1 cargo-load a day. Doesn't matter which ship or how efficient. Don't refine it (since your skills will be far from optimal). Just stockpile it till you have a bunch and then sell it. Use the market-graphs to determine a good moment.

Mining is also a good moment to read up on the Eve-Uni website (never been a member but I do like their site) in the InGameBrowser or so about some Eve-stuff. How do my guns work exactly? How can I do ....? This way you learn something new about Eve every day

2/ Set up at least 1 planetary Interaction (high-sec) on a planet with low tax custom office. You can set it up so it runs standalone for 1 week or so. If you have more : do 1 in the weekend, do 1 on wednesdays,.... It's a (small) steady income

3/ Fly to those green markers on your screen and shoot NPC's. NPC's are your main money maker in the beginning, I find.
Also do missions. Make sure you put some effort in the skills to get more money out of them.

4/ do point 3 again :)

5/ I don't like corps. Usually set up heavily in favor of the officers and his friends. You pay tax and they pay themselves dividends out of the corps coffers.If you need it, join a learning corps like Eve-Uni. Otherwise set up your own and join an alliance (cost a bit but not an arm or leg)

6/ try out some new stuff you learned in point 1.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-07-06 14:29:39 UTC
Eve is meant to be played in a way that pisses off everyone else.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-07-06 14:38:50 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Trader20 wrote:


Edit: Also Eve is meant to be played with a second monitor with Netflix/youtube on.

no , eve is ment to be played with a second monitor with another client on itBlink



When I'm in full deployment mode, I have three monitors all running EVE clients.


And I wish wish WISH I had a fourth for jabber/discord.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-07-06 14:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
In January I completed a special project to unlock all four Empire epic arcs at the same time ...

Shocked

I'm very interested in knowing the details of this 'Special Project'.

I wrote a report for the german forum, but in a nutshell, grinding lvl1-lvl3 missions for the respective start agents' corps. Gallente I was already faction standing above 5 so I could directly start the arc. For Caldari I ran distribution missions for Expert Distribution using a Wreathe. For Minmatar blitzing lvl3 Brutor Tribe security missions with an Arty-Svipul (be careful with shooting pods of player chars in that corp). Same with Ministry of Internal Order in Amarr Empire (starting from lvl1 here).

I'm my own NPC alt.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#30 - 2016-07-06 16:27:53 UTC
why are you waititng for t2 stuff before you actually play? you are doing it wrong. And by the time you get whatever random T2 thing you are trianing for, you will have no idea how to use it, and you will die. Undock and go play. If your corp is not helping you, leave it. Go join eve uni, Red vs blue, brave newbies, pandemic horde, hell there are tons of large corps that won;t care what your sp's are. And lots of small corps that feel the same. The issue is not eve, its you. Undock and play

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#31 - 2016-07-06 18:36:53 UTC
Satchel Darkmatter wrote:
I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do.

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I HATE, the skill point system in this game, it sounds amazing on paper but I think in practice it just demotivates players to login and that cant be a good thing.


EVE has always struggled keeping people interested for the first few months or so for exactly this reason. The skill system is great, but it remains the only real measure of progress when you first start playing. You're forever chasing hulls and modules, scratching out a living on mediocre PVE content while you wait.

The problem is, unless you know what you want from EVE, nobody can tell you how to enjoy it. Regardless of how you choose to do it, there are very few avenues to choose. You're either shooting people, shooting rocks, or shooting NPCs. Then there's trading, and social engineering of one kind or another, which amounts mostly to ******* people over.

The trick is to have a long-term goal. When I began playing, I went through the market and chose a ship that looked and sounded cool, and began working towards that. This was enough to keep me undocked and doing stuff, slowly advancing from carebear central in the heart of Caldari space to the edge of low-sec, and into low-sec itself. This introduced me to FW, which is where I've been ever since. I still can't fly the ship I chose, but the motivation it provided opened my eyes to other possibilities and I've happily found a new favourite ship in the mean time.

Be ambitious, it shouldn't be something you can easily achieve, and if possible it should be something that will require you to integrate yourself with the community. I chose the Widow, partly because it looked cool, partly because it would take months to train for, and partly because I knew it would be useless on its own. If I wanted to use it, I would have to find people to use it with, which is always something I've hated doing in MMOs (I played WoW for a few months without speaking to a single person, I still play GW2 and still haven't spoken to anyone in like... three years). My target saw me join a one-man corp on a whim, because I still hated talking to people and the other member was offline most the time I was around. From there I started joining fleets, then spamming adverts for those fleets, then joining the corp that ran those fleets. Before I knew what was going on, I'd forgotten about the Widow and was recruiting new members, then training them, which led to being promoted to Director. The story continues, with ups and downs along the way, until I find myself happily considered competent in my chosen niche.

You're on the right track by looking for a corp to join, but you won't find the right one until you know what you want to do with yourself. For me, it was the dream of flying my pretty spaceship, maybe it's something different for you, but picking a direction and going with it will take you places. They just might not be the places you expected.
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