EVE General Discussion

So the summary of this thread is:
1. OP doesn't know certain mechanic
2. Said mechanic made him lost internet space ship
3. Gets butt blasted ultra mad
4. Cries at forums about "exploit"
5. Surprise it's a legitimate game mechanic! Now with added DEV post!
6. Gets even madder while people argue about minute details about said game mechanic

Edit: Now I learned something new!

yeah but then the merlin wont pop into a vindi,
itl pop into the exact thing you do not want it to.

you want to smack someone doing this you gank the bowhead,
think about how glorious a kill that will be if you can manage it (and thats a big if on a station undock)

In a 1.0 system....

This would end up creating more issues than it solves.

First, it would be a great buff to awoxxing, especially in mining fleets. If you can transfer your suspect flag to an Orca pilot through the fleet hangar, the tears would just change from the OPs, to some Orca pilot's claiming an exploit instead. That kind of also breaks the current approach to crimewatch, in which one of the principles is that no one can cause you to go suspect/criminal. It has to be your own direct action.

It would also be the end of public mining fleets providing links. Many of them allow the use of the fleet hangar for ore storage. If you can put something in a fleet hangar while suspect and transfer the flag, that would be a gankers wet dream. Free kills with no CONCORD, just by putting a mining ship in the fleet first.

He holds a Vigilant, Vindicator, Orthrus and a Proteus in it as far as I'm aware. All faction fitted. =3

An enemy archon thought it would be funny to rep me once on a station. I shot him and he went suspect and got a timer. I maintain that was through his own foolish actions.


Links have nothing to do with the fleet hangar and are a whole separate issue. Don't worry though, CCP are showing signs that they're completely missing the mark on that rebalance as well.

You know you have control over who uses your hangar right?

Why not simply combine it with the Crimewatch mechanic? So if a pilot is suspect and commits an action, that would transfer his suspect flag to another pilot (i.e. switching ships out of a Bowhead), that action would only be possible, if the Bowhead's pilot's Crimewatch is set to allow HIM to commit suspect level actions. Otherwise the ship switching pilot would simply get a message telling him, that he is not allowed to do that because of his suspect flag (same as if he would try to jump a gate with an active weapons timer).

Just give ship switching in ship bays a 10sec timer which would even be logical lore wise because your capsule needs to be transferred to the new ship, old ship secured new ship put online etc.
Or if you want to play with crime watch let's transfer the flag but give ships with ship bays the option to prohibit docking while having a crime timer.

Best would be to combine both. The insta switching isn't something anyone could expect, I would have fallen to this trap too, and why should switching in a ship bay be so much faster?

dont play station games if you cant deal with consequences.

If you want to one shot it, by my numbers you need about 40 give or take. If you can get off two shots (which may be doubtful in Amarr) you could get it to 20-ish, 25 to be on the safe side.