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Quince Rin
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-07-03 16:42:09 UTC
Traveling through low sec in a fleet and hunting and we grab a guy and I get point on him. Why do the gates start shooting at me?

Quince Rin

Director of Special Operations
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2016-07-03 17:50:07 UTC
Probably because the guy was "neutral" to you (as far as the mechanics are concerned).

Keep in mind, in low-sec the aggression rules are the same as in high-sec. You simply don't have CONCORD, the NPC police, or the NPC navy getting in the way.

How did you Veterans start?
Glitch Lampshade
Ain't Misbehaving
Blood Drive
#3 - 2016-07-05 09:12:19 UTC
in a bit more detail as ive seen you about and figure you are pretty new.

In Lowsec you have standings which effect what you can and cannot do and where you can and cannot go (kind of).

Lowsec is home to many people known as pirates. Who have their standing -5. They (if you overview is set up correctly) will be red on your overview.

Pirates have low standing due to engaging neutrals, such as you did and each time they do, be in on a station, on an asteroid belt, any where in Hi-sec or Low-sec they will loose a little bit more. should they pod a neutral they will loose a lot.

The only protection you have as a neutral is the gate guns, however anything T3D and above can tank the gate guns with ease. If you are in a group you may have logi. 3 armor reps will perma tank a gate gun aggro. Gate gun aggro will shift so if you and friends engage a neutral on a gate the guns will swap targets.

Being a pirate means that should you attack one, gate guns will not assist and we loose that bit of protection, that said in the gran scheme of things it makes no difference as we want people to shoot us.

As we are both in faction warefare you need to make sure your overview is set up correctly. By default pirates, even in militia on your side will come up red, indicating they are enemy. Trust me this happens a lot.

Drop me a mail in game or convo me and we can catch up and you can ask any questions !
Quince Rin
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-07-05 10:37:19 UTC
Glitch Lampshade wrote:
in a bit more detail as ive seen you about and figure you are pretty new.

In Lowsec you have standings which effect what you can and cannot do and where you can and cannot go (kind of).

Lowsec is home to many people known as pirates. Who have their standing -5. They (if you overview is set up correctly) will be red on your overview.

Pirates have low standing due to engaging neutrals, such as you did and each time they do, be in on a station, on an asteroid belt, any where in Hi-sec or Low-sec they will loose a little bit more. should they pod a neutral they will loose a lot.

The only protection you have as a neutral is the gate guns, however anything T3D and above can tank the gate guns with ease. If you are in a group you may have logi. 3 armor reps will perma tank a gate gun aggro. Gate gun aggro will shift so if you and friends engage a neutral on a gate the guns will swap targets.

Being a pirate means that should you attack one, gate guns will not assist and we loose that bit of protection, that said in the gran scheme of things it makes no difference as we want people to shoot us.

As we are both in faction warefare you need to make sure your overview is set up correctly. By default pirates, even in militia on your side will come up red, indicating they are enemy. Trust me this happens a lot.

Drop me a mail in game or convo me and we can catch up and you can ask any questions !


Thanks.

Yeah we will grab a nuetral sometimes while hunting. This makes sense now.

Quince Rin

Director of Special Operations
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#5 - 2016-07-05 15:47:42 UTC
Quote:
As we are both in faction warefare you need to make sure your overview is set up correctly. By default pirates, even in militia on your side will come up red, indicating they are enemy. Trust me this happens a lot.


He hasn't shot me yet. I'm waiting though!
eddie valvetino
Bi-Polar Bears
#6 - 2016-07-05 15:50:25 UTC
Quince Rin wrote:
Traveling through low sec in a fleet and hunting and we grab a guy and I get point on him. Why do the gates start shooting at me?


some good advise here buddy

but i gotta say, and please forgive me....

But if you don't know the answer to this question... You should have NEVER left High Sec.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-07-05 16:09:05 UTC
How else is he gonna learn?

Art of Explosions
eddie valvetino
Bi-Polar Bears
#8 - 2016-07-05 16:11:17 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
How else is he gonna learn?


He was in a fleet wasn't he?

No one in that fleet knew the answer?

come on!!!
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-07-05 23:50:02 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
As we are both in faction warefare you need to make sure your overview is set up correctly. By default pirates, even in militia on your side will come up red, indicating they are enemy. Trust me this happens a lot.


He hasn't shot me yet. I'm waiting though!


Shouldn't pirate in corps show up as corpmates instead of dirty pirates with the default overview?

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2016-07-06 00:32:28 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
May Arethusa wrote:
Quote:
As we are both in faction warefare you need to make sure your overview is set up correctly. By default pirates, even in militia on your side will come up red, indicating they are enemy. Trust me this happens a lot.


He hasn't shot me yet. I'm waiting though!


Shouldn't pirate in corps show up as corpmates instead of dirty pirates with the default overview?

Unsure. The default overview is pretty bad.

Regardless, you want "Corporation," "Fleet," "Alliance," and "Militia" status to always be higher than "Outlaw" status.

How did you Veterans start?
Quince Rin
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-07-06 19:48:59 UTC
eddie valvetino wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
How else is he gonna learn?


He was in a fleet wasn't he?

No one in that fleet knew the answer?

come on!!!



Probably my first mistake, but I didn't ask in corp. :p

Quince Rin

Director of Special Operations