Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This sparks out of a recent loss that was incurred in High-sec after being harassed through Niarja and Madi when a pilot of ours did everything that he was supposed to do to avoid bumping ( with the exception of not flying a freighter) and was still bumped around for OVER 30 minutes before a fleet was able to assemble and blow his freighter out of the water.

My proposal is the following.
The following is ONLY for High Security Stargates
As we know when you jump through a stargate you have a 60 second timer known as the jump cloak. I think a 30 second ,or less even, "Tether" timer be initiated with your ship upon jump. During the timer your ship becomes unable to be bumped. This Tether ends upon warp initiation or timer run out. Game play and "glorious freighter bumping" resumes as normal in high sec upon timer run out.

If implemented then freighter pilots with webbers would be in warp well before the timer ends. Solo freighters would get into warp just around the time the timer is ending depending on how quick they clicked their warp to button. Freighters on Auto Pilot may or may not get off the inbound gate in time but certainly would be a target upon landing out the outbound gate and slow boating in for 15KM.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

That is what i heard... So code needs to actually have forces ready in that time...

That said i have driven bowheads through niarja and uedama loaded with incursion battleships in US primetime... Its not as scary as people think with even a modicum of planning

It won't happen, they'll never limit ganking to autopiloters.

I found the kill you are refferring to, and as a fellow hauler ganked multiple times I must say you should simply forget about hauling 6 billions in a freighter without a high risk of loosing it.
There are others ship class which are really OP if fitted and flown properly:
- Blockade Runners (max cargo around 12.000m3)
- Deep Space Transports (max cargo 62.500m3)
- Jump Freighters (max cargo around 350.000m3)

If your pilots are not willing to use those ships I suggest externalize all together your hauling needs, you can try with public contracts (if so, join the "Haulers Channel") or with specilized coporations like Red/Black Frog, PushX, New Evolution Express.
Externalized hauling has also the advantage of insuring your goods thanks to the collateral.

It won't even make much difference, usually they scan freighters right at Jita undock or Perimeter/Sobaseki/Ashab gates, they have plenty of time to properly organize.

That's what we thought as well. We found the DevBlog about it but nothing about any patch updates so I figured I'd toss this little bundle of joy up on the forums and see what everyone thought about it.

Why?
Simply because there's almost always more than one way to solve an issue. 3 minutes of being bumped and then insta-warping doesn't seem, pardon the usage here, realistic.


The ability to gank has always been intentional. But harassing freighter pilots through the market pipes to essentially stop them from being able to fly that ship in a "secure space" is absurd.

Why Fix it before the release the fix? Well wouldn't it be nice every every update... every "FIX" on a game worked the first time. If game developers had more options or time perhaps we wouldn't have these Fix's of fix's you seem to talk about. I was just giving another solution to a problem that I've seen.


This is strictly gate to gate travel, in high-sec, or "noobspace" as some people refer to it. These aren't pilots off dallying around outside POCO's or in belts. They aren't AFK. If they were then there would be no problem getting them on the outbound and you could keep indefinite bumping. This is Undock > Warp > Jump > warp > ect ect ect > Jump > Warp > Dock. Although it's extremely annoying it's also more, here we go again, realistic than an instawarp after continuous bumps for three minutes.

Both solutions solve to problem. Just a different way of looking at it.

I once shot my friend just to get concord to load onto the grid.

"Did everything"

You are full of crap, if by did everything you mean brought an alt to watch then sure you did everything. But you didn't gank the bumper, counter bump and such, the things that actually work.

Bumping needs no nerfs, we need to nerf the stupid, but how?