Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey !

An idea here.

First, watch the Retribution trailer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX0p0irEOls



Everyone agrees with the fact that bounty are curently useless. They bring no content in the game and they are barely used to annoy new players and nothing else.


Why do not bring a "bounty hunter licence" in the game, based on the same mechanism that Wardecs.


A player (or a corporation ?) is able to buy "bounty hunter" licence from concord. there is few of them :

The gold one
- Cost a lot, like 500m a week
- Allow you to hunt every people who has a bounty over 150m isk on his head in HS

The silver one
- Cost less, like 200m a week
- Allow you to hunt every people who has a bounty over 500m on his head in HS

The bronze one
- Is Cheap, like 25m a week
- Allow you to kill everyone who has a big bounty on his head in HS over 1b


To avoid exploid :

- 24h delay between a bounty addition and the Of bounty amount updated once a week at the DT, to avoid putting a bounty on someone blinky and kill them imediatly

- No one can hunt people between 0 and 150m bounty. To avoid the "i put 100k on your head and you're in trouble".

- Ad a mechanism to decrease your bounty like the tag thing you can do with sour security statut.

- You get a suspect timer if you shot one of your available target : is this is allowed by concord, this keep beeing an assault, and this also allow your friend to help you against the bounty hunter.



Pro :

- Bring content in the game exploiting actual feature.
- Isk sink (cuz you like it CCP)
- Brink a new career of "bounty hunter" in the game

- It's really expensive to annoy people with this feature, because you have to pay at least 150m on each people you want to kill and 500m a week to hunt them. Way more than with wardec.

Cons :

- You put 500m on a dear PVE guy and they can no longer play in HS until they've loss 2.5b, until he pay or do something to reduce his bounty, which seems slightly unfair.


What do you guys think ?

Interesting Idea

So to clarify:

- You buy a license which basically gives you kill rights on anyone above the bounty threshold for the license you bought?
- The bounty payout would be the same 20% of what the ship they were in was worth?


If so this is one of the better ideas for fixing the system. However i would adjust your tiers based on that you only get a portion of the bounty when you kill someone.

The changes i would make are:

- Silver cost 100 mil a week for bounties over 500 mil
- Gold cost 250 mil a week for bounties over 100 mil
- Platinum cost 500 mil a week for bounties over 10 mil.


I would be on board with something like that.

Edit to add: I would also add an icon ( such as war target , suspect, etc) on names that are valid for you to collect bounties on. Making bounty hunting more profitable( since you are now paying to do it) and more effective. As opposed to having to use locator agents, and check profiles.

Let me correct something for you, it actually both CCP and players responsibility to create content. That means players and developers must work together, it the whole reason why there a forum called player features and ideas Discussion.

As for you highsec pvp description... That actually a rather oddly specific scenario. Do you experience this scenario by chance? If so maybe you should change your tactic.



As for myself I support this thread of giving bounty hunters a stronger roll in the community, to make bounty something other than E-peen status.

However if we have to pay for a bounty hunter licenses to hunt down targets in high sec, is it possible that those will licenses will get a higher bounty payoff then those without them? This will help incentivize bounty hunting as well.

Can't imagine how this would affect freighter pilots with their 1-2 bil ships+cargo's at all..... Surely couldn't be abused.
I.E. No.
Bounty hunting can not ever be a mechanic to bypass concord, or it just becomes open season on industrialists (more so than it already is)

Frankly, I don't see that as a problem.

Bounty hunting, I've learned, is a real profession in EvE. The bounty model is built to encourage hunters to collect against bountied alliances in sov 0.0. If you know what you're doing, then you can plex a few accounts per month off the rewards (and wrecks). Working as intended as far as devs are concerned. Dangerous work, as it should be. I think I'll get into it in my next life in EvE. (which may be soon since devs don't seem to know what they want carriers to do)

It would be interesting to have bounty hunting in highsec, but it's not particularly feasible for a number of reasons. One big issue that would arise is the role of wars. War decs are basically confined to highsec. If we introduce an easy way to get pvp targets in highsec through bounties, then we've relegated wardecs' usage to structure bashing.
Before we overhaul bounty hunting again, I'd like to see wardecs get a facelift. The watchlist removal killed off some of the best hunting highsec had to offer.

Highsec bounty hunting would be grand. No denying that.
Before we get to that, we'll be needing a reevaluation of wardec mechanics and, especially for mercs, locator agents.
Until we get those two things ironed out, I'm thinking bounties should probably stay as they are.

Use an escort. Or you could add to the system that you have the option to pay your bounty amount and remove it. After doing so no one else can place a bounty on you for say a week.

Its a good way to get people out of high sec and into the actual game.

...said the marmite spy.

Oh hey we have a class A smartass right here

It's clear to me that the bounty system doesn't work as it intend to.
I belive the reason for the bounty system, was to have player restore justice. But it doesn't.

For those with insane high bounties, you would have to trick them to fly a really expencive ship who you can kill before CONCORD remove yours. So all in all, really not worth it. Or be lucky to get a bonus in a null sec PVP kill.

A total workover of the whole system:

Bounties follow pilots into corporations and alliances.
If a pilot have 10mill bounty, joins a corp. The Corp gets it, and stay with pilot if he/she leaves.
If a pilot have like 65bill in bounty, you don't want him/she in your corp. Because it's transfered to corp or alliance if you are in one.
The destruction of structures should include bounty payouts.
Meaning bounties does matter.
Maybe it will unbalance, those rich corps can make a rival attractiv for others to war dec.
Maybe also change the cost of war decs to 500 mill a week?
Maybe also a possibility to go to CONCORD and say, I'm sorry, and pay the bounty in fine. To get rid of it.

Should there be a "form" you have to fill out, to set a bounty on someone. So you can see why.
Or should CONCORD have standard bounty systems, that follows the security level.


Then to the traditional bounty hunter.
Have CONCORD agents in bounty office, give you kill rights in HS. As you get missions. You get rewarded with a price and LPs.
If the system where set up strict by regions, standings and levels, as the missions are, the exploit could be harder and not to intressting.
Kill rights could be generated everytime a pilot does a criminal action, and "mission" generated at CONCORD bounty agent.
Maybe the insane HS ganking would be more balanced. As the HS gankers could be surprised by a bounty hunter on CONCORD license at the gate or outside the station.

These two suggestions are separate.