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Return Battleships to a warp speed of 3.0 AU

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Maraner
The Executioners
#1 - 2016-06-30 03:20:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Maraner
Please return BS to 3.0 AU warp speed.

I had a near essay written on this and why it is a good idea, but I think the easier question to ask is why cannot the T1 BS and BC's be allowed to keep up with each other and warp around at 3.0 AU.

Not exactly game breaking.

Yes yes make all the smaller ship warp faster, that is fine. But PLEASE return the older T1 hulls in the game to a reasonable warp speed so they don't get left behind to rust.
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2016-06-30 04:50:56 UTC
Fit them for speed and they don't get left behind to rust.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-06-30 19:22:09 UTC
Perhaps if you cried less your hulls wouldn't rust so quickly :'(



Just joking, but I suspect that the old warp speed was before mission blitzing became such an institutionalised phenomenon, and CCP decided to (literally) put the brakes on it. I suspect a parallel might be when they rejigged it so that most FW missions could no longer be run in just a stealth bomber.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-07-02 11:23:10 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Perhaps if you cried less your hulls wouldn't rust so quickly :'(



Just joking, but I suspect that the old warp speed was before mission blitzing became such an institutionalised phenomenon, and CCP decided to (literally) put the brakes on it. I suspect a parallel might be when they rejigged it so that most FW missions could no longer be run in just a stealth bomber.


My battleship now warps faster than ever so It helped blitzing.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#5 - 2016-07-02 11:52:50 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Perhaps if you cried less your hulls wouldn't rust so quickly :'(



Just joking, but I suspect that the old warp speed was before mission blitzing became such an institutionalised phenomenon, and CCP decided to (literally) put the brakes on it. I suspect a parallel might be when they rejigged it so that most FW missions could no longer be run in just a stealth bomber.


My battleship now warps faster than ever so It helped blitzing.




...because you've added warp speed rigs and are probably flying a Mach

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

PavlikX
Scan Stakan
HOLD MY PROBS
#6 - 2016-07-02 16:18:34 UTC
My opinion, repeated countless number of times, BS strongly needs a love from CCP.
And this one improovement is thing that i can agree.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2016-07-02 21:49:09 UTC
BS still would warp slower due to align speed even if they had the same warp speed.
So this doesn't change the 'slower' bit, It just reduces tedium in warp.

And sure you can fit them for speed, you can fit all the smaller classes for speed as well and they will warp faster than a speed fitted BS also. Comparing a speed & brick fit kinda defeats the point.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-07-02 23:57:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Perhaps if you cried less your hulls wouldn't rust so quickly :'(



Just joking, but I suspect that the old warp speed was before mission blitzing became such an institutionalised phenomenon, and CCP decided to (literally) put the brakes on it. I suspect a parallel might be when they rejigged it so that most FW missions could no longer be run in just a stealth bomber.


My battleship now warps faster than ever so It helped blitzing.


You still running the Megathrons, Baltec?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#9 - 2016-07-03 00:25:53 UTC
*Drunkenly stumbles into F&I
Another battleship thread!

*whips gnarly looking suggestion box out of coat and ruffles through it
I'm seen a few more of these bs warp speed threads. No matter.
Here, try this one!
4au range jump drive module (midslot). 2000pg 100cpu fitting cost.
Nor need ter tank me!

*Pulls pint'o'skol out of coat
*Chugs it
*Passes out by New Player Q&A
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#10 - 2016-07-03 08:08:10 UTC
Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:
*Drunkenly stumbles into F&I
Another battleship thread!

*whips gnarly looking suggestion box out of coat and ruffles through it
I'm seen a few more of these bs warp speed threads. No matter.
Here, try this one!
4au range jump drive module (midslot). 2000pg 100cpu fitting cost.
Nor need ter tank me!

*Pulls pint'o'skol out of coat
*Chugs it
*Passes out by New Player Q&A


Then one of the new kids, fresh out of boot, calls PMO...'cause they're new and fresh out of boot.

Now we get a dry barracks some NJP's. And then are 96 gets canceled. Fantastic!

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-07-03 11:02:57 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Perhaps if you cried less your hulls wouldn't rust so quickly :'(



Just joking, but I suspect that the old warp speed was before mission blitzing became such an institutionalised phenomenon, and CCP decided to (literally) put the brakes on it. I suspect a parallel might be when they rejigged it so that most FW missions could no longer be run in just a stealth bomber.


My battleship now warps faster than ever so It helped blitzing.


You still running the Megathrons, Baltec?


I am in the middle of upgrading my current MegaBlink
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2016-07-03 11:08:52 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
BS still would warp slower due to align speed even if they had the same warp speed.
So this doesn't change the 'slower' bit, It just reduces tedium in warp.


On paper yes, in reality they can get around faster than assault frigates.
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

And sure you can fit them for speed, you can fit all the smaller classes for speed as well and they will warp faster than a speed fitted BS also. Comparing a speed & brick fit kinda defeats the point.


In theory yes, in practice no. The vast vast bulk of smaller ships do not fit warp speed rigs, mods or implants. Of the ones that do the vast bulk are interceptors.

Bumblefck wrote:




...because you've added warp speed rigs and are probably flying a Mach


Still a battleship, and its not even the fastest one I have flown either...


PavlikX wrote:
My opinion, repeated countless number of times, BS strongly needs a love from CCP.
And this one improovement is thing that i can agree.


Its not that battleships need a buff its that T3 cruisers need that long awaited nerf to make them cruisers not pocket battleships.
Maraner
The Executioners
#13 - 2016-07-03 22:19:44 UTC
Thanks for all of the replies.

Agree the T3 needs a nerf, I'm sure will happen in all due time.

But in regards to Battleships, the class did suffer post the warp speed nerf, I know that the alliance I was in stopped using them to the same degree. In particular mixed fleet types seemed to start to disappear. I know it is more efficient and easier to FC if all of your ships have the same characteristics but I miss running into mixed hull gangs.

I don't think that asking for a buff to warp speed to non faction BS is in any way game breaking and would reduce the tedium of sitting in warp between gates.

Is it fun to sit in warp between gates? I can understand it in an industrial but warships be go faster..

Battleships were historically in wet navies not slow at all.

So yeah CCP please look at this again, just a gentle buff please, not asking for anything crazy, just return them to where they were for nearly a decade.

Maraner
The Executioners
#14 - 2016-07-03 22:23:15 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Fit them for speed and they don't get left behind to rust.


Defeats the point of flying a BS if you need to give up rig slots and low slots to keep up. No other class of ships has to give up the same amount of EHP just to keep up with the pack.

Or do we all want to see single flavor ships in fleets from now on and forever
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2016-07-03 23:18:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

Its not that battleships need a buff its that T3 cruisers need that long awaited nerf to make them cruisers not pocket battleships.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the non quoted bits.
With T3's, have to say the idea of making them count as BC's not cruisers is one of the best I've seen. Then the T3's fill in the rather empty Destroyer/BC mid classes, rather than compete directly with all the specialist cruisers. And they become a lot larger sig wise and slower agility + warp, but the rest of their fire-power & tank (RLML Tengu excluded) is probably reasonable at BC size.
They'd still overshadow BS, and CCP have said that BS have issues relative to other classes, not just the T3 issue but in general BS struggle to be effective vs cruisers, but you are right that the T3C nerf is one of the big things that needs to happen.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#16 - 2016-07-08 12:06:40 UTC
They can already get over 3au