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Insta-locking Svipul/Tornado
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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#1 - 2016-06-29 18:58:44 UTC
Hey everyone,

Been looking around and trying to figure out what would be fun to do solo wise every now and then getting bored from level 5's or getting bored of doing my usual thing. What is the instant lock sensor scan that you need to have to lock something up in about 1 second? I hate it when I'm about to engage but waiting forever to lock up the ship and watching it warp off when I could have killed it doesn't make me happy.

So now the question comes down to...

Do I use a instant locking Svipul

[Svipul, BLAP!]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Warp Disruptor II

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Projectile Locus Coordinator I
Small Projectile Locus Coordinator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I


That costs around 60M

Or do I use a Tornado...


[Tornado, BLAP!]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I


That roughly costs 102M


Just trying to find something that will pop a frigate or destroyer in 1 shot and playing guerrilla warfare when things get a little to hairy...

Any advice would be awesome since I plan on doing this soon!

Thanks in advance,

-Maykid
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2016-06-30 06:59:18 UTC
Straight

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Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
#3 - 2016-06-30 07:55:15 UTC
I´d go with the tornado. #1: it´s sexy, #2: more potential BLAP, #3: rangeadvantage over small guns
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#4 - 2016-06-30 08:04:49 UTC
of such ships is hisec ganking made. i'd suggest the 'nado over the Svipul, the ISK:Damage ratio is far better.

instead of fitting all those sensor boosters, if you have an alt that can sit in a Maulus with remote sensor boosters, you can use those slots for something useful, like more tracking and maybe a Target Painter?

i'd also look at the rigs, get some Burst Aerators in there to give you more chance of getting a second shot away before CONCORDUKKEN. Six targeting speed mods run into horrific stacking penalties.

Svipuls are a good lowsec gatecamp ship, not so good for hisec work. An Instalock Arty Thrasher is a better ISK:Damage hull.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#5 - 2016-06-30 11:31:46 UTC
watch out with that nado, if you miss an atron it will kill you Big smile

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#6 - 2016-06-30 14:05:34 UTC
The BLAP on a tornado is insane which is a main reason why I would I would pick that as well.

I'm more looking for low sec/null sec gate ganking and never really thought about using an alt with a maulus... I might actually have to give that a shot and use some different mods for the Nado. Will definitely look at the rigs, I would like to be able to get a second shot off before either A. frigate gets to me and tackles me or... B. miss the target entirely and have to warp off to a safe point.

I've seen and had Svipuls kill me pretty hard in low sec so I might end up trying both.

And frigates suck when they get in super close to the Nado....

-Maykid
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#7 - 2016-06-30 14:06:51 UTC
try an instalock loki, or a smart bombing proteus, they are fun

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#8 - 2016-06-30 15:07:00 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
try an instalock loki, or a smart bombing proteus, they are fun


Do you by chance have a instalock loki fit or SB proteus fit?
I've been messing around with a Rokh SB, that's fun until a battleship lands on you... But that's why I love warp core stabs :)
But been looking at loki's and for some reason I really like T3's especially after using a Regengu... SO GOOD! But yeah looking for a couple cheap fits/fun times but also looking for that T3 instalock pop.

And yes... I want to be that guy that pops frigates and destroyers right when they uncloak off of a gate.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2016-06-30 15:16:55 UTC
i dont have them on hand ill update this when i get home, the proteus is expensive around 1.2bil, but if your flying regengus then you shouldnt really worry about cost Blink the loki is fun as its a bit more agile than the nado

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#10 - 2016-06-30 16:14:33 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
i dont have them on hand ill update this when i get home, the proteus is expensive around 1.2bil, but if your flying regengus then you shouldnt really worry about cost Blink the loki is fun as its a bit more agile than the nado


Yeah cost for me won't be a problem after a few missions of level 5's =P But yeah I like the Rokh because its cheap and funny as hell to do sometimes. The loki sounds really interesting and kind of nice :)
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#11 - 2016-07-01 13:35:40 UTC
i found hisec pos with no forcefield but with 4 labs and one sma , what ship could be best to suicide gank these structures. wardecs - 24 hour time to dismantle the pos so wardeccing will not work in this case.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#12 - 2016-07-01 13:39:21 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
i found hisec pos with no forcefield but with 4 labs and one sma , what ship could be best to suicide gank these structures. wardecs - 24 hour time to dismantle the pos so wardeccing will not work in this case.


relevant

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#13 - 2016-07-01 13:42:55 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...What is the instant lock sensor scan that you need to have to lock something up in about 1 second? I hate it when I'm about to engage but waiting forever to lock up the ship and watching it warp off when I could have killed it doesn't make me happy. ..


Translation:

I can't pvp but I found the FONE key, halp me press FONE.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#14 - 2016-07-01 13:49:18 UTC
i hear anything over 2700 sensor strength is useless as server tick etc etc

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#15 - 2016-07-01 13:49:53 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...What is the instant lock sensor scan that you need to have to lock something up in about 1 second? I hate it when I'm about to engage but waiting forever to lock up the ship and watching it warp off when I could have killed it doesn't make me happy. ..


Translation:

I can't pvp but I found the FONE key, halp me press FONE.


Translation:

I like to PvP don't get me wrong I'll fly 100's of ships just to lose them in PvP, but sometimes I just want to be that guy that ends up popping you before you can even think.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2016-07-03 13:27:26 UTC
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
I like to PvP don't get me wrong I'll fly 100's of ships just to lose them in PvP, but sometimes I just want to be that guy that ends up popping you before you can even think.


In that case I apologize!

The last two nights a couple of buddies had that very same problem, you speak of. We placed a bubble on a gate and every time a pod or a frigate would get caught, we warped and the client showed a countdown of 0.01 seconds remaining before the lock and wooosh - it warps of -.-

I feel the pain.

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This is the law of ship progression!

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Maykid Achilles
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#17 - 2016-07-03 16:34:10 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Maykid Achilles wrote:
...
I like to PvP don't get me wrong I'll fly 100's of ships just to lose them in PvP, but sometimes I just want to be that guy that ends up popping you before you can even think.


In that case I apologize!

The last two nights a couple of buddies had that very same problem, you speak of. We placed a bubble on a gate and every time a pod or a frigate would get caught, we warped and the client showed a countdown of 0.01 seconds remaining before the lock and wooosh - it warps of -.-

I feel the pain.


S'all good! But yeah, that's what sucks about it because then it turns into, what if that pod was worth 2B in implants or what if that frigate had a titan BPO or something. Which is painful at times. So yeah instalocking tornado or svipul with a immediate exit route after shooting and killing them, then coming back and picking up the loot sounds pretty good to me! =D
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#18 - 2016-07-03 17:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Loki

[Loki, Instalock Loki]
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
50MN Microwarpdrive II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II

Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I

Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization


Republic Fleet EMP M x1091

Proteus smart bomb

[Proteus, Bomvoyage]
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit
True Sansha Reactor Control Unit

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Warp Scrambler II
Warp Disruptor II

Domination Medium Proton Smartbomb
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb
Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb
True Sansha Medium EMP Smartbomb
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor

Machariel Bomber

[Machariel, Pipe Bomber]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Reactive Armor Hardener
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Cetus Scoped Burst Jammer
Target Spectrum Breaker

Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Improved Cloaking Device II
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II


Warrior II x5
Garde II x4

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