EVE General Discussion

I got nauseous when my ship undocked. I don't if it's the way the camera pans out and follows your ship, but it didn't feel good. (no troll)

I like it.

Some people will only stop complaining if eve looks like this: + Link +

i have mixed feelings, i actually find the undock effect very cool and i have just been letting it play out regardless.

However

the instation effrect is more problematic. It seems to be somehow immensly intensive in some way. Earlier today i literally sat looking at a black screen for about a minute after docking before it would finally play the in station docking thing. Even at the best of times from the start of that transition where the ship disappears to gaining access to station facilities has increased by at least 20 seconds for me.

It used to just do the "docking request accepted" ship disappears station interior appears and services are available all in a few seconds.

So undock effect i like

in station effect i would prefer to turn off

Please can you add a option to remove the new docking and un-docking in the graphics settings.

I personally suffer from motion sickness / vertigo - I have already disabled the camera shake and the new camera tracking etc.

Some people like myself cannot play games like valkyrie / Elite Dangerous / even Fallout V without getting a headache / feeling seasick.

I recognise this may seem like a very small point - but it would make a difference to players who are affected by this, just give us the option to disable it, that's all we ask.

And that is why the people who are impacted negatively by it would like to be able to disable it.

You can still enjoy it.

We were never going to enjoy it, because it's not designed for us, it's designed for you.

Theres an entire camera team? I thought it was a side project for the cleaning lady while ccp staff are down the boozer.

Lets be clear. this is a bit of simple camera panning. No one asked for it. Those that are quiet are not the issue. Even if its a vocal minority who are upset by a feature that no one asked for, that adds nothing to the game, that doesnt even look very good if we remember this is 2016 and compare it to the current state of high end graphics out there. This little bit of camera panning is disorienting to some, to others like me it just looks tacky. I find it hard to imagine that there are many people out there that are blown away by this.

Then there are the practical issues. Does it matter if most people dont care if control of their space submarine is snatched from them after undock for a moment after they provide an input to the camera?

Im not saying this whole new camera is dogshite because most people dont like it. Most people dont play the game like i do. Some dont even undock. Im saying the camera is dogshite because its just dogsnite in almost every way. I have zero regard if others dont care, i would have hoped CCP would want to make something at least as good as what we hard before, rather than adding lots of polish for us all to slip about on.

- Panning up and down requires 2x input compared to panning left and right.
- There are too many zoom increments when very close to ship, which flips when zooming further away when increments are very few and far between making it sometimes awkward to find a comfortable zoom level when kiting large gangs and fleets.
- This spread of zoom increments on the new camera zoom makes ratchet-less scroll wheels almost uncontrollable for the purposes of zooming for the higher ranges.
- Max zoom out is now about 200km on grids that are 10000km wide. Used to be 1000km on grids that were 600km wide.
- And now, when undocking and providing the first manual input, the camera is snatched from you and does an arbitrary zoom before yielding control to you even though you are already moments into trying to do so.

It garbage. Its a total mess.

Now, just because high sec bears, null f1 monkeys, station traders, miners and any number of other players dont care to the extent that CCP could take as big a turf on the primary input method for this game and they wouldnt notice. As a player who flies fast ships against larger gangs, and i am not alone, this camera is just worse in nearly every way and makes controlling the game harder. For no good reason.

Ive basically retired to F1 monkeying at the weekend and forum warrioring since i just cant bring myself to undock to fight the new badly implimented, over polished camera. Which might sound like an overreaction to some. But remember, the camera is the primary input method for manually piloting.

For me, using the new camera is like someone snatched my g502 and replaced it with a £2.99 chinese no-make mouse. Sure, it does essentially the same thing, but i notice a big difference.

So you were looking for some kind of self validation through some armchair forum moderation? Thats very productive.

what is love?

What kind of space pirates are we raising that they get a little tummy-ache and dizzy from a chase camera?

KB